What's up with the Props???????????

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by tlennon » Mon May 24, 2010 1:03 am

Well, whatever it is, I doubt if it's as big as the Record release. They went through leaps and bounds to advertise that months before releasing. This is sort of low key IMO and I haven't even been innundated with email from them.
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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by alex.the.forge » Mon May 24, 2010 1:13 am

leedsquietman wrote:who cares ?

As a former reason user, they have done nothing since the launch of reason which has been groundbreaking, record wasn't exactly revolutionary and a payable add-on option they should have included with reason.

An iphone/ipad app - big effing deal !
that's pretty much how I feel - Live 4 + Komplete 2 finally killed it dead for me. There was just nothing I couldn't do better or easier

I loaded it up on occasional nostalgic moments and quickly got sick of the fiddly little annoying interface - kinda makes sense they would port it to iPhone/iPad

I got a beta of Record and loaded it up once - it's bad enough trying to use Reason with all it's fake plastic toy knobs etc, but trying to use a whole DAW like that would drive me insane!

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by Machinesworking » Mon May 24, 2010 2:42 am

Sold my copy a long time ago, and agree, Komplete 2 killed it for me.

Credit where credit is due though, Reason 2.5 at least was the single most stable music app I've ever used.
Nothing came close. THAT, is what I reminisce about.

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by v00d00ppl » Mon May 24, 2010 2:54 am

Machinesworking wrote:Sold my copy a long time ago, and agree, Komplete 2 killed it for me.

Credit where credit is due though, Reason 2.5 at least was the single most stable music app I've ever used.
Nothing came close. THAT, is what I reminisce about.

Live 6 ahem......version 6.0.5 alongside sampler and operator. I was a happy camper.

As for reason. I also ditched or once AAS did live instruments. Thor was good for what it was, but analog and electric got the job done for me. Sure reason 4 had mpc60 swing, but I was able to get my shit to swing anyway I wanted in live 6 and live 7.

I'm changing my first guess and going with the ipad version of reason 4. I'm sleeping in

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by Machinesworking » Mon May 24, 2010 3:11 am

v00d00ppl wrote: Live 6 ahem......version 6.0.5 alongside sampler and operator. I was a happy camper.
Yeah, but I'm talking I never ever had Reason crash, ever. That's a lot different than "Live never crashes if I don't use third party VST/AUs, and two versions ago".

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by v00d00ppl » Mon May 24, 2010 3:47 am

Machinesworking wrote:
v00d00ppl wrote: Live 6 ahem......version 6.0.5 alongside sampler and operator. I was a happy camper.
Yeah, but I'm talking I never ever had Reason crash, ever. That's a lot different than "Live never crashes if I don't use third party VST/AUs, and two versions ago".

Point taken. I rarely ran vst programs so that's why I didn't complain. Except stylus rmx got the job done for me

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by tlennon » Mon May 24, 2010 4:29 am

Come to think of it.... Reason 3/4 never ever crashed. EVER! No crackles no poping... I can't think one prob I had with it. The app is rock solid. Something I can't say about Protools or Live.
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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by alex.the.forge » Mon May 24, 2010 4:47 am

Machinesworking wrote:
v00d00ppl wrote: Live 6 ahem......version 6.0.5 alongside sampler and operator. I was a happy camper.
Yeah, but I'm talking I never ever had Reason crash, ever. That's a lot different than "Live never crashes if I don't use third party VST/AUs, and two versions ago".
yeah I agree with that - probably why they never added any kind of VST wrapper like a virtual Receptor - that is definitely where i get the most trouble with Live - I still get crashes with my Waves and NI plug-ins - although 8.13 is a lot better

and I used to use Reason on amazingly underpowered machines - like Pentium 2 400 and do quite a lot - it definitely had it's uses, I guess the thing is they didn't move enough with the improvements in technology so that now it feels like a toy because it's so limited compared to computer power available

no doubt the closed platform is what makes it so solid, but that's also what stopped me using it

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by Machinesworking » Mon May 24, 2010 4:50 am

OK I know it's not going to be, but I would PAY for a version of Rewire that allowed both master and slave to host VST/AUs!
ReWire could easily do this, on mac you can do this with three applications running: MIDI Clock, IAC MIDI, and Soundflower or Jack, but it's not elegant really.

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by alex.the.forge » Mon May 24, 2010 4:51 am

v00d00ppl wrote:...Sure reason 4 had mpc60 swing, but I was able to get my shit to swing anyway I wanted in live 6 and live 7.
yeah that's the funny thing about Live 8's groove - I think it's one of the best features and while I do use it, I still probably do it manually far more just by holding CMD and moving the notes or velocity myself - I just find I get it the way I want that way, and it's heaps quicker than going over to the groove browser etc

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by Machinesworking » Mon May 24, 2010 4:54 am

alex.the.forge wrote: yeah I agree with that - probably why they never added any kind of VST wrapper like a virtual Receptor - that is definitely where i get the most trouble with Live - I still get crashes with my Waves and NI plug-ins - although 8.13 is a lot better
It does make me wish I could afford a Receptor, for sure. At this point the only real issue I have is Automap, which is a PITA because I barely use it, preferring to have access to the track volume sliders instead of wrapped plug ins.

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by nathannn » Mon May 24, 2010 5:56 am

kb420 wrote:
nathannn wrote:maybe they finally made the synths run in anti aliasing mode?

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

what?
am i on to something here?

didn't you test synplant before it came out?

Edit.. never mind i dont think that was you..
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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by Da hand » Mon May 24, 2010 6:58 am

v00d00ppl wrote:They better show some tits tomorow or else I am out. 5am pacific standard time. The truth shall be told
To me, at this moment, it looks like the countdown may be to May 28 and not tomorrow. Then again, I didn't see what this calendar looked like before today (so I don't know if there were more days on the calendar before - were there?).

If the countdown only started this morning, then maybe this countdown thing is just a way for the Prop employees to feel better about their work week - you know, how many days/hours/min/seconds left before the weekend :wink:

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by phil909 » Mon May 24, 2010 7:46 am

i think it's reason 5.

i think there will be 5 different countdowns, each one revealing a new feature/info.

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Re: What's up with the Props???????????

Post by Da hand » Mon May 24, 2010 7:53 am

^hmm..interesting thought. You mean info like?:

Monday: Get Ready....
Tuesday: for the new...
Wednesday: version...
Thursday: of....
Friday:

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