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Hey Rave... You're soooo easily lead! haha. I'm sure you'll love it though!

here's a video of Steve Duda giving a little run through of Nerve http://www.muzu.tv/datatransmission/pla ... country=es

More feedback... It's a great app... very fast, workflow wise & intuitive in it's design.. The sample/sound shaping qualities are very cool, powerful and sound good which helps! I love the waveform visual update while messing/tweaking... File management is well implemented also. The GUI is cool but I'm finding it a little fiddly (possibly as I'm not used to it yet?)

Creating beats is a breeze and creating variations is easy too... grooves like you want when you want it!
Lfo control is very cool..
Precalc effects... shape shift those sounds like a moffo!

Deffo a fantastic addition to my arsenal ...

The dev is very responsive to suggestions and feedback also it seems...

Free upgrades too!

Me = Happy bunny!

Hd

I like it. But not enough to splash out just yet.

I just can't get past placing audio samples direct on the timeline and/or in simpler in Live to give me those glitchy sound mangling capabilities. I suppose it suits my workflow better and it's the main reason I don't use guru much anymore either.Keeping all my drum samples on separate tracks with their own EQs and effects and then gluing them by group tracks is just the way I find best to get the beats sounding the way i want them.

So, I'm not 100% sold at the moment, it is a fun tool though. Let us know how you get on with it Rave.

Why do you need 3rd party samplers? Ableton has everything. Just curious.

It does, I guess it's more to do with speed, personal preference, work flow etc....clever marketing can't be discounted of course.

The Leveller wrote:it's more to do with speed, personal preference, work flow.

Yup. I can't be bothered to use the mouse or trackpad while making beats (in fact that is a workflow killer for me) so I'm not interested in this. Although it may be interesting to use it with Air Display on the iPad. I'm just too spoiled by Maschine.

Learn how to use Sampler with Drum Racks. Take some courses on it, you'll find it very powerful. That's all you need. It's fun to buy new software but it will not make you a better musician. 3rd part plug-ins take up your CPU. You can load 50 Samplers into an Drum rack.

You can have Maschine, Guru, Nerve, BPM or whatever. At the end, I will blow you away. Learn how to use the tools you already have.

Haven't tried the demo yet but the interesting thing for me looked to be the sound shaping options. Envelopes & synthesis features (& effects but that's easily done already) for each drum sample, applied directly. For instance, it would be cool if you could change the slope of each envelope stage. I like to drag/draw the slope for subtle envelope shaping, like in Omnisphere. Simpler's envelope is pretty standard, i think Sampler's does have slope. I guess the convenience of say adding a sine wave to a sample, with the same envelope, and some drive/saturation in one glance would be what interests me about Nerve. Also, some people prefer a TR style step sequencer over the piano roll, like in Microtonic or Nerve.

If i make a cool drumloop in Nerve, is it possible to i.e. drag&drop the beats onto Live's audio tracks?

peez wrote:If i make a cool drumloop in Nerve, is it possible to i.e. drag&drop the beats onto Live's audio tracks?

Yes... Not that I've done it.. as I've only had it a couple of days (still on 1.1) . But afaik in the new release candidate that you can D/L from the Nerve forum, this function is available.. Along with drag and drop midi too..

Hd

clank72 wrote:Learn how to use Sampler with Drum Racks. Take some courses on it, you'll find it very powerful.

Not everyone who has Live has or wants Sampler.

clank72 wrote:That's all you need. It's fun to buy new software but it will not make you a better musician. 3rd part plug-ins take up your CPU. You can load 50 Samplers into an Drum rack.

That may be all YOU need but that doesn't make it so for everyone else.

clank72 wrote:You can have Maschine, Guru, Nerve, BPM or whatever. At the end, I will blow you away. Learn how to use the tools you already have.

You're not making any sense. People have their own preferences for workflows and features for their tools so they choose what they want to use. Just because you use Sampler with Drum Racks doesn't mean it's the best way to go about making beats. Besides, Drum Racks is more of a hack when compared to the workflow of Maschine.

And about "blowing us away", back it up or STFU.

heavensdaw wrote:

peez wrote:If i make a cool drumloop in Nerve, is it possible to i.e. drag&drop the beats onto Live's audio tracks?

Yes... Not that I've done it.. as I've only had it a couple of days (still on 1.1) . But afaik in the new release candidate that you can D/L from the Nerve forum, this function is available.. Along with drag and drop midi too..

Hd

Thanks. This certainly makes it more appealing. Recording/resampling would work too but drag&drop is much faster.

Demo'ing for a little while. Thanks for the thread. It's a bit like Microtonic but way better.

humnumb wrote: Drum Racks is more of a hack when compared to the workflow of Maschine.

Could you please explain this a little more ?

it's always a bad idea to speak for others but I'm sure he meant that drumracks is less elegant than maschine, drumracks are pretty sick, but anyone who has used maschine and understands it or has at least got a good gander at it's features even written on paper could see how dope it is. Maschine is no joke, before I tried it thats what i thought it was a fucking joke, toy at best compared with lives drumsampler..............but like alot of people I had this aversion to it that can't be explained any other way than superstitious boogly goop, but what maschine can do with sampling, slicing, effects, stepsequencing, routing and the mixture of all of it at the same time makes it nothing more than very foolish to judge before you've explored it, and on top of all of that hands on to boot pfffft the frack outta here......no really get out of here !!!!!!!!!!!!

but not you binary, you cool you stay

I'm not really sold on Nerve....

Well, I am. I bought it - but now I'm not using it much at all... don't know why really.

Its got some really cool features, but I just don't quite click with it. Maybe its because, for my purposes, drum racks are more than sufficient...

Or maybe its because Nerve doesn't have a browser...