Sherlock Holmes wrote:rant.
No shit sherlock!
But there is also the opportunity to clear something up re: offline authorisation.
But ya, given that I'm ranting, you must surely assume I'm running a pirated copy given your previous nonsensical observations on that topic.
mihai wrote:either way i always assumed that the software scans for something more consistent than an hdd, like the motherboard id no. or something, in order to render itself as "used" but of course i could be completely off. hope whatever problems you're having end up working out fast though. best of luck.
it doesn't.
fisto wrote:Well, its clearly a fault from ableton's side. I've used up all my autz on one machine, because i changed some settings and new hardware. It's funnyto start up your computer after some tuning/upgrading and find your copy of of live in demO-mode. Really really bad!
It would also be in the abes interest to tie the aut-system to the motherboard, to keep better control of authorizations.
Just my add.
Cheers
exactly!
cotdagoo wrote:however there's always the issues you can't schedule - and i think that's a big part about what this thread is attempting to address.
i've had both a onboard video card die, had a pci network card die at random and it's been a pretty simple process to remedy as i've got spare parts from over the years. but again, this is only part of the problem when you take ableton live into account.
i can replace my faulty hardware, disable broken onboard devices through the bios and have a perfectly working system. it's only when i launch ableton that it becomes an issue, and i have to take the time to either get an internet connection established (which i really don't want on my main DAW) or email support and ask for another unlock if i've met my limit, which again leaves the easiest method for authorization being an internet connection after i've got an additional unlock.
none of my plugins ever require this, nor any other software installed on my system unless the registry entries which stored the registration data were removed/corrupted for some reason (hasn't happened yet).
like i said, i haven't had any 'real' issues.. but at the same time i can clearly see the problems at hand for someone who is working on a deadline or time sensitive material and has something horrible happen where they have to replace a piece of hardware at an inopportune time for ableton to supply extra unlocks - (ie: over the weekend).
just seems odd when you never run into this sort of problem with any other software. would make a lot more sense (to me at least) to use something like a hardware id that's tied to the motherboard (something that most users won't swap out or replace in their computer's lifetime). then if your hardware does crap out, you don't have to spend the time explaining your situation, and asking for another unlock.
edit: if you haven't ever had to ask for more unlocks/authorizations imo your opinion is worthless on this subject.
agreed. In this case there was no planning, LIVE and solely LIVE corrupted it's copy protection out of the blue. Not what I'm complaining about, although it's certainly one experience that helps shape my opinions on the current auth system.
Tone Deft wrote:
another Pros only thread.
Best of luck with the rant!

. Kill Kill Kill!!!
It's not a pros only thread, it's for folks who work to deadlines.
That you don't see the distinction between the two speaks VOLUMES.
Or was it because I use the word hobbyists ? either way you're wearing your heart on your sleeve chump.
crofter wrote:
A real pro would have a backup system so it wouldn't be a problem, I have and I'm only a fucking amateur.
Hi,
You said ableton were generous with their auths earlier. You never got around to defining generous, probably because you know 'generous' isn't what they are.
I have a backup system btw, thanks for your concern.
Tone Deft wrote:LOL for real...
he's tough on the outside but onside he really is quite emotional.
FWIW this amateur just ordered a new PC as I wait for it to arrive on the 20th I'll send Ableton an e-mail asking for more registrations. I don't know if I'm at my limit but that's my amateur plan.
Troll...
I talk about deadlines and you get real defensive about that. Calling Freud, come in Freud.
stringtapper wrote:
Pffft! People working to deadlines don't have time for this type of preparation.
Oh look, they come in packs.
Where'd you get your crystal ball ? Let me know, so next time I'll email Ableton well in advance of LIVE corrupting it's protection scheme out of the blue.
Besides, I have a backup. That doesn't make the current auth system any better. Am I grieving here about what happened to me ? Nope. Just saying the current system is a load of shit.
And it is. That's why none of you jagoffs have yet made any kind of argument to the contrary.
Tone Deft wrote:
tell me about it. we're supposed to ship a project first of the year. my new work machine came in last week and there's no way I'd have the time to install the suite of Mentor Graphics CAD tools. so Engineering Services is doing it for me, it will take them until Monday.
oh well, I'm sitting on the sun @SF Civic Center waiting for jury duty. No popcorn allowed inside.
*yawn*
You're a nob man. Same shit, different day. You do this shit all the time, troll a thread and then engage in some breezy off-topic exchange with one of your trolling cohorts.
If it's not that, it's the monday blues. If you're going to troll try and mix it up a bit.
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