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BoddAH wrote:Maybe it’s just me but mixing with open cans kind of defeats the whole purpose of mixing with headphones.

They’re almost as loud as actual speaker monitors.

You're going to go deaf, turn them down if they are as loud as your monitors.


Anyone that needs to use headphones for mixing should try Isone Pro. It's a no brainer for me @ €20, much better than Headfit or Redline Monitor IMHO.

for those of you suggesting the Redline Monitor plugin.. I tried the demo version when it came out and was working on a song when I noticed that with the plugin activated I couldn't hear one of the synths I had used in the track. I checked the mix on my monitors without the plugin and I could hear it there. So, for a plugin to completely remove the frequencies of that synth, it must not be doing what it's supposed to be doing.

Thanks. Going over options.

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For me it is DT770 pro from Beyer dynamic.

pamplemousse_mk2 wrote:For me it is DT770 pro from Beyer dynamic.

I have those and really really like em, but I bought a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50 and I think they beat em sound quality wise. I still like the cloth on the Beyer D's though - its just more comfortable than vinyl...

McQ714 wrote:for those of you suggesting the Redline Monitor plugin.. I tried the demo version when it came out and was working on a song when I noticed that with the plugin activated I couldn't hear one of the synths I had used in the track. I checked the mix on my monitors without the plugin and I could hear it there. So, for a plugin to completely remove the frequencies of that synth, it must not be doing what it's supposed to be doing.

That...is...interesting...I cannot say I have had any issues, let alone one such as this, but that does not negate the fact that some issues are out there. Now Im gonna have to push the thing into replicating this behavior. Thanks for the heads up McQ714

^ just make sure you add the synth with the plug off or you won't know whats missing.

You'll never regret buying a pair of Sennheiser HD25:s!
Sturdy like they were built by the Russian Army...
I've had mine for 5 years now, still sound great. Best thing is that
you can get spare parts for them in case you brake them.

!STiTCH! wrote:

McQ714 wrote:for those of you suggesting the Redline Monitor plugin.. I tried the demo version when it came out and was working on a song when I noticed that with the plugin activated I couldn't hear one of the synths I had used in the track. I checked the mix on my monitors without the plugin and I could hear it there. So, for a plugin to completely remove the frequencies of that synth, it must not be doing what it's supposed to be doing.

That...is...interesting...I cannot say I have had any issues, let alone one such as this, but that does not negate the fact that some issues are out there. Now Im gonna have to push the thing into replicating this behavior. Thanks for the heads up McQ714

to be perfectly honest, the synth may have been completely out of phase (i don't know if that matters). i wanna say it was an FM8 preset slightly tweeked, but it might've been RP blue. it may have had the waves s1 applied to it as well but that wasn't the culprit. don't really remember... wish i could be of more help. just thought it was a really interesting result of using the plugin so i didn't continue with it.

Beyerdynamic headphones are superb. You really can't go wrong with either the 880's or 990's. I bought both pairs with the intention of returning the loser. While the 990's were definitely more fun and inspiring to use and the 880's were harder to mix on in that sense, I found that my 880 mixes translated better than my 990's did. The 880's won't give you as much bass as the 990's, but I think their frequency response is more similar to typical commercial speakers than the 990's. Subsequently, I found this website and checked out some frequency response comparisons: http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompar ... hID[]=2141

I also have a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M50's and pretty much recommend them to anyone and everyone who ever asks me about headphones. They're really good for the money. I use them on the go all the time when I don't have a headphone amp with me as they really sound just fine without one. They're very Beyer 770 sounding. More graphs for thought: http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompar ... phID[]=713

Also +1 to the Redline plugin. Takes the kick drum out of your brain and puts it properly in front of you.

I vote as well for Sennheiser HD25, but be careful and choose right - HD25-SP1 sucks! It's a cheaper version and unfortunately has nothing to do with deep sound of "original" HD25 (though it's not a fake - just a budget version).
I would suggest you to try Sennheiser HD380Pro. Outstanding quality to value (price) ratio.

i agree with above
both DJ studio, hard levels, closed : HD25 I , HD25 II killer reference
quiet envrt, studio : HD650 ultimate, quite flat
lower price : HD380 great price/perf

got HD25 from years and they are stunning. went to HD650 3 days ago they are just awesome, trhu a bit pricey i don't regret them.
ggod to compare via both.

Audio Technica ATH-M50's here. I don't understand people who recommend HD 25s for studio work or mixing. It's a good dj tool, but to my ears it doesn't show details in upper mids or high frequencies...since i have the M50 i haven't touched my HD cans.

esky wrote:...I don't understand people who recommend HD 25s for studio work or mixing...

No need to be so picky... You know they call it "diversity"... It's a question of taste, I guess. I have ATH-M50 as well (just for reference...) and it's collecting dust on the shelf (as well as AKG K240 and K271...). I find HD25-II and DT770Pro, beside Yamaha HS80M, much more "in my taste". despite their almost unnatural bottom end (which I love...). HD25-II are (kind of) most versatile...