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B3 wrote:I'm using 8.2.1.

I unhooked the duet and restarted my machine, then hooked the duet back up again. Problem seems to have gone away for a bit. I've also e-mailed Apogee support. This problem also affected my NI Kore Controller yesterday, so I'm not entirely sure it's duet related. Things seem to point to Live's Audio engine or ???

B3, pretty sure this is Duet-related; happens not infrequently with me (with both Live and Logic). Running MaC Pro Quad Core, 6GB. Unplugging the Duet and plugging back in always does the trick.

I get it in 8.2.1 with my RaneTTM57SL mixer on a quadcore pc with 8gb ram.

It happens regularly on one particular section that has 12 operators in a drumrack.

I tried freezing some other tracks and the error message said that i couldnt freeze that track because i had a compressor in the rack !!! wtf.

I am gonna try asio4all

lapieuvre wrote:Top right of the screen: do you see the D button light to orange?

Thanks for your question. No, the D button has never been lit during these issues. I have a pretty fast HD -- a hybrid SSD + 7200 RPM drive.

It seems that there are two issues that I see occurring:

1. dropouts due to CPU overload
2. dropouts that appear to be due to Live's audio engine

I've had the exact same issue as the OP on fresh projects with only 1 instrument and buffers of all sizes on an interface better than most people here. I'm not doing it wrong. Also weird enough is the problem was only in Live, it would play perfectly in Logic and other apps.

It's Live's audio engine for whatever reason.

Has anyone found a fix to this? My Ensemble is currently unusable in Live 8.3.4

Likewise, I had to move into Logic for tracking. Not stoked on that.

If you're running Mountain Lion, it's a bug in CoreAudio. The fix is to turn off WiFi (really, I wish I were joking) and turn it back on.

schullermusik wrote:If you're running Mountain Lion, it's a bug in CoreAudio. The fix is to turn off WiFi (really, I wish I were joking) and turn it back on.

Impossible! That sounds more like a Window bug. Window bugs don't live in Apples (so I have heard).

Macs don't have nearly the plethora of bugs you see in Windows, but they exist. This is a pretty huge one and impacts anything using CoreAudio.

Coreaudio is degraded version of ASIO. lol cheesy fanboy

Really? I'm a "fanboy" for answering a tech question? I did PC DAW for 10 years.

no you're a fanboy for inserting an opinion about an irrelevant OS/system for the question at hand.


there is an OS X update that will fix that. and Linnux GUIs are inferior.


see?

useless.

Actually, there is no OSX update for that. Nice try though - don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. "Useless", indeed.

it was an example, not a statement of fact.

Fair, and I took the bait. True story - I wasted way too many hours back in the Windows XP days trying to build a stable PC DAW. Went to Mac back around 2007 and never looked back. The CoreAudio bug in Mountain Lion sucks, though I've found turning off WiFi definitely helps me focus more when I'm in my studio. It's been all over the Logic forums.

i bought an iMac in September, what can i say?

i am a Windows network administrator and oversee about 300 PCs with 14 servers by day. so... as it pertains to Windows.... i'm not skurred!

BUT CORE Audio is nice.

i just bought Logic 9 last week as well.

i also just updated to Mountain Lion last week. the main reason i updated was Wifi drops outs in Lion. and now you're saying that wifi dropping out is good.

anyway, no problems... YET.

sorry schullermusik, i bust pencilrocket's chops enough... i decided to take his side on this one. he's a helluva a good sport... just a little negative.

i've spent more than a couple of dozen hours, during music sessions, on troubleshooting XP/DAW issues. i am still in the process of getting the ball rolling and getting used to OS X. so, i can't say that i've been more productive in terms of making music, BUT at least the time has been spent on DAW specific efforts... and some cross platform learning rather than wondering why, for example, Cubase SX3 keeps crashing. i don't miss that at all!

since Cubase SX3 wont run on an Intel based Mac i upgraded to 6.5 so again... i can't speak fairly to the difference between OS X and Cubase vs. XP and Cubase.

*shrugs*

what kind of music are you making schullermusik?

My tastes are all over the board; I enjoy electronic music (my first synth was a Roland Jupiter 4 that I bought used in 1982 when I was 13) and I'm also a huge fan of punk, post-punk and shoegaze and enjoy writing guitar driven stuff as well. The current studio is based on a 27" iMac (quad core i7, 16GB RAM) with a little outboard gear - Propellerhead Balance sound card, APC40 and Novation Impulse. I just recently got back in to Live after taking about 6 years off, and have Reason 6.5 and Logic 9 installed as well. Back in the PC days, it was FL Studio (I used to do tech support for Image Line as a side job) and Cakewalk Sonar.

The WiFi thing is a bummer - the first time I encountered it, I had left Logic open in the studio one night and came back the next morning to CPU spiking and awful audio glitching. Searched all over the Web and landed on Apple's Logic Studio forum where it was being discussed at length. Hopefully Apple will take ownership and get it fixed soon.