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this seems like the sonnivox vocalizer but with a simpler interface.

elxicano wrote: If you mean that The Finger is now included in Komplete 7, then I don't think that it qualifies as you suggest. If you bought it separately and then buy Komplete 7, I'd suggest contacting NI support to see if you can resell The Finger since you would now have duplicate licenses...

Sorry- you can't. Korepacks sold as a download have never been resellable. The EULA in the original Finger's documentation folder says:

6. Download Sales

Download sales are final. Native Instruments does not issue product refunds once a download transaction has begun or cancel any contract for services connected to a download purchase once a download is initiated. "Soundpacks" (in particular "Kore Soundpacks", but also others) and other "audio content products" are not resalable when sold as downloads.

And, the latest EULA goes even farther:

Download sales are final. Native Instruments does not issue product refunds once a download transaction has begun or cancel any contract for services connected to a download purchase once a download is initiated. None of the products of Native Instruments are resalable when sold as downloads.

ew

ew,

Users have been permitted in the past to sell their licenses to The Finger. I don't claim to know the circumstances regarding the decisions to allow it, but this conversation comes up every time it's listed on the KVR Marketplace and from time to time users did successfully sell their copy of The Finger.

I also know they have allowed downloadable items to be resold. I personally resold my download version of Absynth 4.

This is why I say to contact NI support. The worst that can happen is they can say no.

elxicano wrote:ew,

Users have been permitted in the past to sell their licenses to The Finger. I don't claim to know the circumstances regarding the decisions to allow it, but this conversation comes up every time it's listed on the KVR Marketplace and from time to time users did successfully sell their copy of The Finger.

The EULA once upon a time allowed for reselling of everything. The Korepack restriction went on in March 2009. While sales might have been possible in the past, I wouldn't count on them in the future.

I also know they have allowed downloadable items to be resold. I personally resold my download version of Absynth 4.

A different EULA was in force when you bought Absynth 4. The new EULA is from September, and arguably only covers new content bought on or after September 1st.

ew

funny video, looks like it could be extremely useful and I would be very interested to here peoples thoughts who have used it.


btw Tim Exile is doing a TED talk this Saturday in England http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=152235

@ew... that's too bad about the new EULA terms (as of September). It's good to know, but I definitely don't agree with the direction of limiting the resale of downloadable products vs. physical ones.

looks cool. funny video!

zenke wrote:@elxicano --- Hahahahah !!! you really think i can sell it. I have various double licences which I can't sell. I have various pieces of software which now are not supported. I bought EI 1@2 and if I upgrade to 7 I get again. on and on. I just think NI have become a somewhat questionable company when those who have supported them almost from the start in terms of buying much software are really left out in the cold. I've heard all the arguments and I ain't convinced.

Me too.

I have a copy of Kontakt, Absynth, Intakt and Reaktor after upgrading to Komplete 2.

I contacted NI support about them and they said they couldnt find my 'other' account.

So now I just have the boxes ... well 1 box for intakt.

I just emailed them again about it so we will see.

If i can get them sorted I might sell them and get Maschine !!!!

[quote="drchoc"]funny video, looks like it could be extremely useful and I would be very interested to here peoples thoughts who have used it.

I tried it today (downloaded last night, 69€ EU). Lazy test without any intention just remixing 3 or 4 short drum loops (controlled by notebook keyboard only) - but this was pure fun . new - http://soundcloud.com/seelensack/om-and-the-mouth --- i'm not a pro !!! only amateur --- added on 11/17 - here comes a little audio-video experiment: http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/107038503
Installed it in Reaktor 5.5 library - used it in a new track set in Live 8.2.1 - high CPU usage 20% by Reaktor VST The Mouth. (Well, I do not run a fast CPU, Quad Q9000 - win7 64b). Filtering drum loops is not the intended usage but I think you will have great fun with nearly every source you run thru The Mouth.


AAAnd - Yes - SoniVox Vocalizer has the same options - was out two months before that mouth. 99$ (only shipping from US)

drchoc wrote:funny video, looks like it could be extremely useful and I would be very interested to here peoples thoughts who have used it.


btw Tim Exile is doing a TED talk this Saturday in England http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=152235

I bought and am using this. VERY FUN! And pretty useful too. Very shallow learning curve compared to 'The Finger', and I like it quite a bit better. The simple mixer interface is what does it for me. It's divided into 5 effect sections, and you can get as deep and messed up as you want with any one of them (each has its' own simple tweakable panel) , but you can always **quickly** reign in any sound back into "usable" territory with big friendly-looking mixer which never goes away. Beautiful interface. And you really *can* go as deep as you want into any of the 5 modules if you have Reaktor - with the help of the people over at Tim Exile's new website, I've already added a switch that lets me flip back and forth between Osc types in the Synth module, and I'm poking around now looking to see what else I can wreck.

Highly recommended!

Jason

I still have my Kore-coupon that came with Komplete 5... I asked NI support and they verified that I can use it with "The Mouth"....
So if anyone still has a coupon, you can use it for this!

cheers for the info guys. Really looking forward to trying this out, and have since installed the latest kore player to accommodate it.

drchoc wrote:cheers for the info guys. Really looking forward to trying this out, and have since installed the latest kore player to accommodate it.

Might not work -> It's a Reaktor Instrument. I know that the Kore runs the Reaktor engine, but I'm also thinking that they wouldn't have created the new Reaktor player if it wasn't for these sort of newish purchasable Reaktor-Based instruments. I don't really need to keep up with any of that since I just run with Komplete. I *do* know however that if you download the instrument and get it installed you can run it for 30 minutes in Demo mode before you decide to buy.

Jason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7MHWsNqWbg

little rewiu of the mouth native instruments with one loop in live ableton and the mouth in reaktor fx track hi

gennaro

new video with the mouth in live ableton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEmMOrrMpyg

i got it using the komplete voucher so didnt cost much, so far so good,


i like the pitch to midi