guitar to midi

[Tone Deft]

in Live he quantizes to 1/4 notes, just like you would with a piano keyboard.

so it seems, I'm not a huge fan or Willits expert, I've just watched some videos of his over the years.

IMO you're kind of overthinking it. you don't need to be a shredder to make use of a midi guitar.

the guitar just becomes another keyboard. I got into it for the reason you noted, I know the notes/chords/scales on the guitar way better than I do on the piano.

oh I see, so you meant after he records he edits and quantizes them on ableton to quarter notes. Sorry, I'm fairly new to the recording and ableton world.

even easier, Live can quantize notes as they come in.

[simpleton]

...you don't need to be a shredder to make use of a midi guitar.

...the guitar just becomes another keyboard...

This certainly isn't the best bit of guitar/midi kit but IMHO it is the most under rated. I know that it does not do chords. But by using the audio out I can trigger an amp sim simultaneously along with a midi synth. It's pretty accurate and the latency is decent. The key is playing it with a cheap Korean or Chinese guitar. The cheesier the pups the better!

[Pasha]

you lost me with "no pitch to MIDI conversion."

I played a mag pickup into a Roland guitar synth and the latency was unplayable. then I got the RMS w/Axon and it plays GREAT. I thought it was the whole Roland rig that sucked but I've read from many people that the mag pickups work fine. more people agree that the Roland guitar synth stuff isn't very good.

not sure what you mean by needing both. don't have time at work to google what all those boxes do. RMS bridge plus Axon is all I've needed.

if you watch Willits' stuff closely he quantizes to quarter notes and doesn't play quickly. great outcome but he doesn't push the guitar-midi interface very hard so he can get away with the Roland box. IMO.

use what you like.

Sorry... let me try again:

When you use a VG-99 you apply Roland COSM modeling to each string and you can use GR-300 COSM Modeling to emulate that fantastic synthesis. In that case VG-99 does not perform Pitch Tracking, Pitch comes from what you play and "Pitch Tracking" is done only to feed the oscillator not MIDI Note conversion is done. That's why you can bend strings, use muted strings and play with your style without worrying. No latency. I have played one of these with a crappy guitar (custom made low cost axe) equipped with a GK-3. It has been an incredible experience. I was making synth sounds like Pads, Strings, Brass and weird LFO sounds including a Pat Metheney like solo brassy sound. When moving to COSM traditional guitars with hard rock settings or Blues settings or Acoustic Guitar settings (play a 12 string guitar with a 6 string axe) or a Nylon Guitar or even more... Alternate Tunings! Open C, Open G, Open D, Joni Mitchell special Tunings and the like.. all in real time.
However I simply cannot (unless I consult a Psychologist)add the Gk-3 to my Fender Strat Plus De-Luxe from 1989... so I looked into Godin Guitars and found John Mc Laughin's Godin Freeway SA, used at a reasonable price. Googling I have found that RMS pickups make some kind of howling and increase feedback on heavily distorted sounds and RMS ships a VG-99 filter for Godin users to allow them to use VG-99 without compromises.
In summary on the http://www.vguitarforums.com/ some recommends GK-3 or RMS + VG-99 Filter to drive a VG-99. That's way it seemed that you need both: a GK-3 to drive VG-99 COSM Modeling (no MIDI) and an RMS to drive Guitar Synth (MIDI) like GI-20, GR-20 and Terratec's.
Confusing...

- Best
- Pasha

[anybody human]

in Live he quantizes to 1/4 notes, just like you would with a piano keyboard.

so it seems, I'm not a huge fan or Willits expert, I've just watched some videos of his over the years.

IMO you're kind of overthinking it. you don't need to be a shredder to make use of a midi guitar.

the guitar just becomes another keyboard. I got into it for the reason you noted, I know the notes/chords/scales on the guitar way better than I do on the piano.

oh I see, so you meant after he records he edits and quantizes them on ableton to quarter notes. Sorry, I'm fairly new to the recording and ableton world.

As was said, it's actually the "record quantization" option so it's done automatically as you play notes in. The drawback is that u can't quantize to a percentage but it's for live use and w/ long sustained notes for that kind of ambient work it's probably fine. Not really a groove thing, especially since the synth being triggered probably often has a relatively slow attack, or not but still... U know what I mean.

[Tone Deft]

apply Roland COSM modeling... to feed the oscillator

got it.

agreed, that kind of processing is a lot of fun. I do a similar thing where I run the guitar into a vocoder, that way I have control over a synth with the guitar. tons o' fun.



simpleton - yeah, I gotta put one of those on my Xmas list this year. they're simple but I've read nothing but good reviews about them.