hussey wrote:... Are you making similar stuff?
nowadays no, it's more like skewed pop music, not nearly as atmospheric as your links. the last drone music that i attempted to make was more than 10 years ago, using audiomulch. audiomulch is quite cool for this kind of music, but you basically want to make noise in audiomulch, record it, and pull it somewhere a bit more organized (such as ableton) to better sculpt the output. the audiomulch granulator effect is perhaps the best one out there. it sounds great, and has an outstanding versatility.
however, ableton's effects, in general, are perhaps the best effects i have ever heard. yes, i'm a fanboy, but i have messed with a few audio platforms in my time, and I find myself proudly and defiantly using ableton effects for virtually all fx duties. there is something about the ableton building-blocks approach that lends itself to experimentation and flexibility. the abe effects have a distinctive character, almost "boxy", that i really like, but i think many people pooh pooh this aspect of ableton. to each his own.
another dark secret about ableton is that many people use the samplers (simpler/sampler) basically as effects processors, or ways to further mangle sounds and loops. i've thought about doing this, but i don't.
max for live opened up some possibilities, but i don't use it as much as i should. i'm in fact waiting for some m4l gurus to release some outstanding suite of effects or widgets that seriously shifts my focus away from the built in ableton tools. to date, m4l has not yet reached that bar (for me) but i'm sure it will happen eventually, its just a matter of time.