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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:51 pm
by vince watson
hehe..
yeah...just when you think you are getting value for money, all of a sudden you cant see it...
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:59 pm
by Machinesworking
sniffio wrote:
thanks for the info about the 10.3.5.
Will check it out.
PS what was your problem with the 10.3.6 ???
Can you plz be more specific so that we can learn from you.
10.3.6 had the most obvious problems with GUI and Live/Logic for me. People I know who are tech savvy, said .3.6 was the worst of the batch.
This sort of thread bothers me. I don't see even a hint of rational thought in it. From what I can tell this is an M-Audio problem, but people with M-Audio cards are making it out to be an OS problem?

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:28 pm
by vince watson
it is an m-audio firewire problem...NOT the OSX..
i think that some poeple are talking about the 10.3.6 and 3.7 becasue the m-audio drivers dont seem to be working with the new OSx updates...
seeing that the all new all singing all dancing 1.4.1 m-audio driver is not even fully 10.3.6 compatable and they have released it bears sentiment to that fact....useless.
For live to function perfectly with an M-Audio firewire, we may have to go back to 10.3.4.
it is an m-audio problem, but the 2 are closely linked are they not?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:38 am
by Machinesworking
vince watson wrote:it is an m-audio problem, but the 2 are closely linked are they not?
NO!
Jeez?
That sort of reasoning is so completely self centered and narcissistic? Seriously this is your poll?
I HAVE FIREWIRE AND IM HAVING PROBLEMS!!
I HAVE FIREWIRE AND NO PROBLEMS
All caps is hard to read BTW.
If you know it's an M-Audio problem why paint firewire as the culprit? If M-Audio have yet to release a good driver for OS 10.3.7, ( for your particular audio card), then
It is still M-audio to blame, and not the OS or firewire!
This is what I'm talking about when I say rational thought.
If I had a card that was not working properly, I would sell it, and get a new one.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:09 am
by vince watson
hey machinesworking
1. the poll was up on the site before we realised it was an m-audio problem.
2. if you are telling me that the m-audio driver doesnt have any use, contact or anything to do with the OS then im sorry to dissagree with you, but i thought it did.
3. i am selling my card and getting a new one..
4. simple poll as there is enough complicated shit on here as is, no ones forcing you to make an entry
5. make up your own poll if it sooo bloody offensive.
di you fall out of bed the wrong side or something?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:19 am
by Machinesworking
vince watson wrote:di you fall out of bed the wrong side or something?
Nah, it's just about the third thread about audio problems with macs and firewire, and every time somebody mentions, "hey you guys are all using M-Audio", maybe you hadn't noticed that? So yeah sorry, not really directed at you.
Too bad about M-Audio, I can get a sweet deal on an Ozonic, and I'm tempted, but these threads have me wary.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:22 am
by vince watson
cool man....
we did see a trend here regarding m-audio popping up all the time, but some of the users were having problems with mutu as well....probably not related to firewire.
its always good to be wary i think, even with the sweetest setup...you never know what the f*** is going on inside your harddrive....especially with audio.
laterz
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:57 pm
by 3phase
sniffio wrote:
PS what was your problem with the 10.3.6 ???
Can you plz be more specific so that we can learn from you.
The problem with 10.36 was lots of unexpected crashes...this of cause can be sourced in Live 4 but the fact that there was a lot of anti 10.36 rumours around and the fact that apple updated 10.36 within weeks made me to belive that 10.36 is a troublemaker... In 10.37 the crashing stopped
If there are some positve 10.36 experiances please let me know...
in the moment i am back om 10.35
regards
Sven
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:08 pm
by vince watson
im back on 10.3.7....and im 100% fully functional with no problems.....since i changed to an RME soundcard. blindingly good...and you can rely on it 100% with no thoughts in the back of your mind on stage....
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:31 pm
by Zky
vince
Im using 10.3.7 and motu 828mk1 with no prob at all..no fan issues at the moment
looking forward to that 10.2.8 update..we´ll see
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:42 am
by unsuccessful handshake
g4 powerbook 1.5ghz 1.25 gb ram
osx 10.3.7 live 4.1
FIREWIRE motu 828 (original)
no problems here guys
ps- i bought my mac in like march or april 2004 (something like that) so maybe it was only some other models...