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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:13 am
by Komplex
I always flick thru the manual a few times.
printed manuals are the best

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:16 am
by redrabbit
EXACTLY suburbanbather and smutek.
Take those unprinted manuals, copy them to CD, and bring them to a "xerox" copy center. Ask to have them bound and copied on a paper of your choice.
They wil print them using both sides of the paper.
It don't really cost that much either.
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BTW
I read all my manuals, whether I understand them, is a different hairball.
The LIVE manual is real good, compared to say...Tera....or Culture.....or worst Battery 1 (Battery 2 is
much better).
As I see it, most manuals have 1 of 2 approaches ; some manuals tell you HOW to do something but not WHAT it does.............other manuals tell you WHAT something does but not HOW to do it.
Good ones tell you both.
The BEST ones also tell you WHY you want to do something.
The LIVE manual makes productive bathroom reading.

(see, I
can do two things at once!!)
=RR=
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:36 am
by Hypomixolydian
I never read manuals!!!! I have bought so much stuff over the years and I have not once read the manuals. Though maybe I should. I find them so boring. Yet it could explain why I don't make the most of what I have got.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:41 am
by 5inusoid
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote:I never read manuals!!!! I have bought so much stuff over the years and I have not once read the manuals. Though maybe I should. I find them so boring. Yet it could explain why I don't make the most of what I have got.
READ YOUR MANUAL!!!!
Its fun.
Besides, what else would you wanna be reading about?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:51 am
by Hypomixolydian
5inusoid wrote:
READ YOUR MANUAL!!!!
Its fun.
Besides, what else would you wanna be reading about?
I like reading recipe books.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:40 am
by redrabbit
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Astral Fridge Magnet wrote:
"I like reading recipe books."
....then you need one of these :
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/con ... 0-1,00.htm
....and install LIVE on it too.
=RR=
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:59 am
by tylast
3 times here ~ In fact, the Live manual is the most well written manual of software that I've ever read.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:08 pm
by Martyn
Reading the manual completely is the shortest route to learning an app, I don't get why people prefer to spend literally months trying to figure out something that's just 10 minutes of patient reading away. Or else they hang out on forums such as this asking questions like 'how do I record my guitar?' or 'how do I get mp3 into it?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:42 pm
by Moonburnt
I always try to read every manual from cover to cover but I still haven't got round to doing that with Live's manual yet, i consulted it more as a reference book. Problem is, with a software manual like that, it kinda helps to have your computer handy, and i prefer to read 'elsewhere'.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:47 pm
by Moonburnt
tylast wrote:the Live manual is the most well written manual of software that I've ever read.

I have to second that, it's so clear and precise, and generous with illustrations.
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:15 pm
by hoffman2k
The Live manual is a must read. how else are you going to discover the stuff thats not in the manual

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:48 pm
by Hypomixolydian
Hmmm, interesting concept
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:53 am
by Vercengetorex
I enjoy the Live manuals immensely...
I have purchased the boxed versions since Live 1 and have read every one of the manuals

Its my primary motivation for getting the boxed upgrades! (that, and of course, STICKERS!!!)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:06 am
by mexique1
yeah i've read the manual this week and i discovered how much i can do with enveloppes
RTFM

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:28 pm
by ekko
I always read the manuals for ALL my software. I spend too much money on them and use them too much to NOT be aware of everything each program can do.
Like many of you, I take the .pdf's to Kinko's and have them printed and bound.
Likewise, I really like the "Power!" series of books, and the Ableton Live 4 Power! book that just came out is really well done. The Reason 2.5 Power! and Peff's "Power Tools For Reason 2.5" are must-haves, IMO.
A "Power Tools for Live 4", with some really advanced techniques in it would be most welcome.