How u use maschine in Ableton ?

condra · Post by **condra** » Thu May 05, 2011 2:58 am

Jumping on this thread to see how people are shaking with Maschine.

motoryogurt · Post by **motoryogurt** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:31 am

I've tried out this method, and I suppose I could see more pretty groovy benefits to it, but on all in all, it just seems to take so much away from the natural work flow of Maschine. I think, I'm still on the hunt for my favorite method of interfacing the two, though I feel like I'm leaning towards just perfecting my flow with Maschine in stand-alone, and then exporting to Ableton once I have the skeleton worked out...

So many optional approaches.

humnumb · Post by **humnumb** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:44 am

motoryogurt wrote:I've tried out this method, and I suppose I could see more pretty groovy benefits to it, but on all in all, it just seems to take so much away from the natural work flow of Maschine. I think, I'm still on the hunt for my favorite method of interfacing the two, though I feel like I'm leaning towards just perfecting my flow with Maschine in stand-alone, and then exporting to Ableton once I have the skeleton worked out...

So many optional approaches.

This approach as a plugin in Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WcbjOm1uhY
and the Mackie Control template:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0AzEr_E3l0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL5DQvkD_Qg
is a great combo for interfacing between the two.

I do like Maschine's standalone workflow the best though. A lot of the times I drag and drop the audio directly from Maschine as I come up with stuff on the fly or export the entire arrangement as separate sounds/groups.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:38 pm

Just32 wrote:
But doing this i have to program the pattern on live to trigger sounds on maschine... whats the point of that? I just could use a Live´s Drum Rack. What i need is to trigger patters in maschine from live, because is much much more easy to program a pattern in maschine that in live. Thats the usefull thing about maschine...

I prefer the quoted method above. I have much more control of scene and clip launching in Live than I do in Maschine. Maschine's scene mode is awful. Here's a screen shot of my Live template. Maschine does not sidechain, hence the kick bus, nor does it stretch audio loops. The drum machine track is for the Maschine instance and outs 2 and 3 correspond to groups B and C in Maschine. If I don't feel like messing with Maschine I'll just drop Geist in the drum machine track and route accordingly from Geist.

Tyko · Post by **Tyko** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:36 pm

I use Mashine directly in Ableton and it is awesome, you just have to copy the MIDI driver files from the Mashine install folder into Ableton lives folder.

This video explains in full detail how to get it working. the screenshot at 1:29 shows the location of the files to copy and where.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9RC0lkJsto

jonbongjovi · Post by **jonbongjovi** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:26 pm

So maschine can't do what can be accomplished with LPC + Launchpad?

Tyko · Post by **Tyko** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:05 pm

i dont have it but im pretty sure its the same, just with less pads..

lol ..then again mashine also has knobs tho.. i wish they would have added sliders

The Carpet Cleaner · Post by **The Carpet Cleaner** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:49 pm

the easier, the better.

Now I use maschine as a vst
the 8 groups in maschine are routed into 8 audio tracks in ableton.

that's it. I do my sauce in maschine ( mostly sampling), i can load some vst as well if I want to do clip automation.

then on the other side, I use Live session view + APC to trigger different things.

than I play around with maschine+mute+solo+patern+scene, and APC+mute+clip+stop+whatever + effects on master channel. It's kind of having two instruments to play with.

when I'm happy I record the performance than switch to arrangement to finish.

really simple and easy. I hate having complicated setup.

Tyko · Post by **Tyko** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:04 pm

amen to that ^ i hate complications

cramos241 · Post by **cramos241** » Sun May 20, 2012 4:31 am

Mkhai wrote:I use Mashine directly in Ableton and it is awesome, you just have to copy the MIDI driver files from the Mashine install folder into Ableton lives folder.

This video explains in full detail how to get it working. the screenshot at 1:29 shows the location of the files to copy and where.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9RC0lkJsto

humnumb wrote:
This approach as a plugin in Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WcbjOm1uhY
and the Mackie Control template:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0AzEr_E3l0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL5DQvkD_Qg
is a great combo for interfacing between the two.

I have done everything that both of the above youtube videos say to do and i have read the control editor manual up and down but I am still running into issues with my maschine's midi info gettin picked up by ableton. Looking for some troubleshooting help please.

I copied over the maschine controller info into the correct ableton resources folders, assigned maschine as the midi control surface but still the midi track indicator wont blink in ableton when i push anything on maschine. kinda stuck now. curious if anyone else has run into this problem. any help is much appreciated

delicioso · Post by **delicioso** » Mon May 21, 2012 8:21 pm

cramos241 wrote: I have done everything that both of the above youtube videos say to do and i have read the control editor manual up and down but I am still running into issues with my maschine's midi info gettin picked up by ableton. Looking for some troubleshooting help please.

I copied over the maschine controller info into the correct ableton resources folders, assigned maschine as the midi control surface but still the midi track indicator wont blink in ableton when i push anything on maschine. kinda stuck now. curious if anyone else has run into this problem. any help is much appreciated

This is an old thread and I think there's been more recent info shared here since then as there are many different ways of using Live and Maschine together.

Here's one example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WcbjOm1uhY

And here's MegaMaschine, "A workflow-oriented Maschine template for Ableton Live ": http://megatroid.noisepages.com/2012/02/megamaschine/

Dchild · Post by **Dchild** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:17 pm

Have you tried the Mega maschine template?

http://megatroid.noisepages.com/2012/02/megamaschine/

This seriously improved my workflow.

humnumb · Post by **humnumb** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:30 am

The newer version is called MEGAmaschine++ – A work-flow oriented Maschine template for Ableton Live: http://megatroid.com/megamaschine/

" * 3 selectable pad modes. Toggle between using the pads for firing scenes, clips, or MIDI notes. Features the ‘red box’ like the APC & Launchpad.
* Navigate easily between tracks and devices without touching the mouse.
* 4-track knob pages for controlling Volume, Pan, Sends, Mute & Solo for the tracks currently selected by the ‘red box’.
* Selected track page to control the parameters of the currently highlighted track. Great for arming tracks and recording clips on the fly.
* Device page to navigate and control the devices on the currently selected track.
* Host transport control, plus lots of other functions to make your Live sessions as mouse-free as possible."

maro · Post by **maro** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:38 am

Great to see there is an update on the MEGAMaschine Template I really loved ... thanks so much for your effort!

I installed it and about 50% is working - some features which are showing up on the Maschine Display not really ... like <<DEV our FOCUS etc. and the feature I loved the most > the Device Control knobs - are these still bugs or am I doing something wrong? On MAC LION / Ableton Live 9

Thanks

jlgrimes · Post by **jlgrimes** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:54 pm

Just32 wrote:I just bought a maschine. But when i set it up with live, i realise that live dont record any maschine event, as a change in the step sequenser or a that a new pattern was fired. So, u cant automate this stuff. Its anyway to do this ? If not, how u use the maschine to produce ?

I use Maschine in parallel with Live.

Insert it as a VST, and do drum tracks in there while Live is running.

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