Record finished track instead of exporting?

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Moody
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Re: Record finished track instead of exporting?

Post by Moody » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:53 pm

kev herb wrote:so the op wants to avoid lives exporting/rendering which he believes is changing the sound so if he resamples the master to new audio track within live doesn't he still have to render the audio track via lives export to audio to be able to play it in itunes or whatever so he has not avoided lives rendering engine at all? correct me if i am wrong but would he not be better using Jack or soundflower into another program and hitting record?
Just grab the wav file afterwards.
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Re: Record finished track instead of exporting?

Post by kev herb » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:00 pm

How do you mean grab it? Highlight it and drag it to finder/desktop?? Sorry for the stupid question. :oops:
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Re: Record finished track instead of exporting?

Post by ze2be » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:52 pm

kev herb wrote:How do you mean grab it? Highlight it and drag it to finder/desktop?? Sorry for the stupid question. :oops:
Look in the Project folder/Samples. OR, if you dont know the location of your Project: just hold the mouse pointer over the audio clip, and read the info at the bottom of Live.

OP: when exporting, choose "no dither" in the menu. Normalize: OFF. And chose 24bit or higher. 44.1 khz is also safe, if your end product is digital. For vinyl, you can go higher, if you wish.

Regarding Resample vs Export. I do it sometimes, because sometimes its faster then export. Thats right. I have a few projects that actually plays faster in real time then they use to get a clean export.

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Re: Record finished track instead of exporting?

Post by ze2be » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:03 pm

The common export settings for audio going to most "professional" records (mp3, cds etc) is:

24bit
44.1 Sample Rate/kHz
normalize of
no dither

For vinyl, or movies etc, you can go higher on the kHz if you wish. But no current soundcard can play higher bit rate then 24bit. I dont really know any benefits of 32 bit audio files for mastering.

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Re: Record finished track instead of exporting?

Post by southsounder » Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:12 am

Probably the same end result as using the resample function, but we simply set up an extra audio track, set the input to "no input" and the output to the master fader. Then we set all the outputs on the tracks we want to record to the extra audio track instead of the master. The play/perform your song. Anything you play/trigger/automate is recorded exactly as you're hearing it. Then retrieve the wav/aif file as previously discussed.

We use this for rough mixes and with individual tracks for exporting projects to other DAW's and have never had an issue with the sound quality.

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