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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:11 pm
by hoffman2k
Yeah, you need to use midi yoke (or something like it)
I cannot explain all technicality's, but it seems to be harder to develop virtual midi for windows then for osx.

When you start up bidule in osx. It creates it's own midi i/o

You can buy it now at 65 and that will allow you to use bidule as it is now.
They will release a more advanced version in the future. but you are not obliged to buy that upgrade. And you still get costumer support for the "lite" version.
So if you're happy with bidule now and the price seems good. Buy it if you can.
There's no need for getting worried of future releases because i still haven't discovered the full potential of 0.7 yet. And from what i understand, the other version will be more about audio processing.
I'm happy with the way it handles midi.

Cheers

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:12 pm
by hoffman2k
Forgot to add that there is no need for rewire to do this.
On osx you can use rewire for midi though. But i'm not sure how it works on windows.

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:19 pm
by mexique1
There's no need for getting worried of future releases because i still haven't discovered the full potential of 0.7 yet.
sure ! that was just to say i read something about a "lite" and a "full" version with different prices, but it's obvious that the possibilities of the lite version are almost endless !!!

thanks again for the tip 8)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:05 pm
by ikeaboy
Your a mind reader. Brilliant, just what i was looking for

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:07 pm
by ikeaboy
How do you get bidule Generated sequences quantised in a L4 Clip. Is it a simple mater of starting Live first setting bidule to tempo and click start at the start of a bar?

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:18 pm
by hoffman2k
ikeaboy wrote:How do you get bidule Generated sequences quantised in a L4 Clip. Is it a simple mater of starting Live first setting bidule to tempo and click start at the start of a bar?
Yeah, it would have taken you less time to do it. Then to type it :wink:
The beauty of bidule is that you can mix various tempo's synced or not synced. And record them on any track you want.
Try the midi delay. Good for making a 32 step sequencer out of two 16 step sequencers :)

can it make an arpeggiator like a Juno 60?

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:33 am
by logman
if so I haven't worked it out yet, and got sleepy doing it. Numerology seems much easier to use for some of this stuff.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:22 am
by ConneKted
wow thanx man !!

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:33 pm
by hoffman2k
Hellz yeah.

Plogue bidule has a new expiration date and tons of new features.
Get it at www.plogue.com and join the party.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:37 pm
by hoffman2k
Oh yeah. Images should be linked up properly now.
Better late then never 8)

Expect some more cool stuff in the near future....

I only need feedback from you guys, so that i know if it's confusing.
I try to make the lessons so that anybody can follow.

Next up... parameter arp......

Cheers

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:22 am
by jbible
Thanks Hoffman. This tutorial made me decide to get familiar with Plogue. WOW!!! With this and ableton it is now possible to achieve many of the ideas I have been imagining.

Looking forward to the next tutorial. Until then I will be going through the Bidule site and documentation.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:28 am
by jbible
Ive been experimenting with this on PC and wanted to point out some things. I tried a couple different 'virtual midi cables. Midi Yoke and LoopBe. I found Midi Yoke was causeing DSP spikes resulting in hangs. LoopBe on the other hand ran rather smooth.

However the best scenerio I found was using my actual hardware midi interface 'Midiman USB Midisport 4x4' I just ran a cable from out to in. Seemed to be the most pc efficient as I am trying to set up lfo's for multiple CCs.

bidule is great

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:51 pm
by maci
thank you
this is awsame bidule rocks or elektronize

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:30 am
by conny
ok, i've tried to route midi from bidule to Live via the rewire bidule : impossible !!!
so i must use midiyoke ? and not run bidule as a rewire slave ?

thanx
Skip rewire if possible, it's limiting your options.
Try the VST bridge that Plogue has made downloadable, you may choose between VST or VSTi when inserting it into Live. But since Live don't take midi back from a plug, you may need Yoke anyway. Ands thats OK because you can have different Yoke's in Bidule to separate outs and receive them individually in Live on different tracks.

Edit: I did not realize I was answering a post down on page one...

// C

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:00 pm
by anonymouse
great post