I jumped ship to Studio one V2 sorry abelton; (

[Piplodocus]

I never noticed that Live becomes less functional, the memory available shrinks, and the features I'd been happy with gradually disappear as other DAWs gain new ones! Sure it's not 64-bit, but it's not like it was a month ago and Ableton's lack of attention made it gradually lose bits, and by yesterday it had was only 37-bit!

I'm glad you've found a more suitable solution for your needs though, and if you don't use session view and do orchestral stuff I'd have thought Live a poor choice to begin with. I'll be very happy when a 64-bit L9 does finally come, but if a rushed, unreliable and buggy 64-bit Live comes tomorrow it's of a lot less use to me than my currently very stable 32-bit version. They MUST some kind of Live 9(s) at Ableton HQ by now, but it's obviously not one stable enough version yet, and until it is I really don't want to pay good money for it!

[dbfs]

theres no tempo/loop detection.

Bullshit. Drag a file in and it will lock to the tempo. Then you have the option use the transient markers to line it up more tightly.

Melodyne is not built in to Studio One, you have to actually own melodyne first. This leaves no facility for audio pitch editing or Flexi-Audio (Warp in Live).

Bullshit again - When you purchase S1 V2 Pro, you get a melodyne license at no additional cost. You just have to install it, which is provided for you in your software list.

Cracked S1?

[Nicknackerski]

Bullshit. Drag a file in and it will lock to the tempo. Then you have the option use the transient markers to line it up more tightly.

Grrrr! lets all be like, all aggressive 'n' stuff rahhhhhhh!

check these posts out off the V2 forum.
Post1
Post2
Post3

I've seen there is a manual work around, but other daws (Logic, Sonar) have a simple 'set project tempo to region' facility so you don't require any prior tempo knowledge of the loop or 'performance by feel'.

Bullshit again - When you purchase S1 V2 Pro, you get a melodyne license at no additional cost. You just have to install it, which is provided for you in your software list.

I'm actually trying the V2 Demo straight off the website. It has certain features missing. Melodyne being one of them. MP3 import another. etc........

You're right the Pro version does include a licence for the basic 'essential' software, but it's not in the demo version and i was misled by this quote off the website.

"Celemony’s Melodyne is the most sought-after pitch-correction solution in the market, and it has been the model for proprietary solutions in several DAWs. Studio One 2 seamlessly integrates Melodyne so tightly that, for practical purposes, Melodyne is simply a part of Studio One."

Cracked copy s1

Don't be silly i'm fuckin loaded.

Best Wishes.

[dbfs]

Bullshit. Drag a file in and it will lock to the tempo. Then you have the option use the transient markers to line it up more tightly.

Grrrr! lets all be like, all aggressive 'n' stuff rahhhhhhh!

check these posts out off the V2 forum.
Post1
Post2
Post3

I've seen there is a manual work around, but other daws (Logic, Sonar) have a simple 'set project tempo to region' facility so you don't require any prior tempo knowledge of the loop or 'performance by feel'.

Bullshit again - When you purchase S1 V2 Pro, you get a melodyne license at no additional cost. You just have to install it, which is provided for you in your software list.

I'm actually trying the V2 Demo straight off the website. It has certain features missing. Melodyne being one of them. MP3 import another. etc........

You're right the Pro version does include a licence for the basic 'essential' software, but it's not in the demo version and i was misled by this quote off the website.

"Celemony’s Melodyne is the most sought-after pitch-correction solution in the market, and it has been the model for proprietary solutions in several DAWs. Studio One 2 seamlessly integrates Melodyne so tightly that, for practical purposes, Melodyne is simply a part of Studio One."

Cracked copy s1

Don't be silly i'm fuckin loaded.

Best Wishes.

Boy, someones sensitive... Can I get you a tissue?

First - You obviously didn't investigate the demo enough before handing out your valuable opinion... If you actually did download the Demo and activate it, you would have seen this on your software registration page. It is integrated into S1 through ARA, you just have to install the damn thing. THEN you will see how it IS integrated into S1.



You are loaded, theres no doubt about that!

I'm not even going to get into your pure an utter lack of experience with the program. Time stretching, Transient markers/Quantize, file tempo input, melodyne... Theres like a ton of ways to lock a loop to the tempo your working at.. You want the program to hold your hand when you make a loop? Stop being such a panzy, and get in there and make it happen.

[pencilrocket]

If you couldn't compose in Live why wouldn't you have had Cubase? Cubase offers far more features than that of Studio one. OP's argument is epic fail.

[chelemasty]

If you couldn't compose in Live why wouldn't you have had Cubase? Cubase offers far more features than that of Studio one. OP's argument is epic fail.

It's all about the workflow of the user, not features. You're an epic fail. DAMN NOOB! ;p

[starving student]

Ableton seems to have stopped communicating with it's customers/user-base in the engaging way it once did.

yes agree. Happens to most companies when they grow larger simply because their time is taken up with all the extra things big companies through at you when you are running them

Since when has Ableton ever been 'engaging' with its communication. Maybe you have been getting different emails than I have.

haha this man knows what his mouth is talking about!!!!!

I've loved our fireside chats with the princess of monolakey but ableton the company has always been mute and it's enough to make me want to cry
now somebody pass me a henke so I might wipe my tears

[ThomasHelzle]

I have to say that IMO Presonus Studio One v2 is the perfect companion to Ableton Live.
I personally found the arrangement view in Live always to be pretty awkward to use.

Studio One has the same basic principles as live - work in one window (although you can drag the mixer to a second monitor), drag and drop everything, keep it simple and clear for the artist but centred around what is called the arrangement in Live and with a great mastering section (if you use the Pro version).

Interestingly enough, most of the developers seem to be former Steinberg employees, so they know what they are doing and also seem to know what NOT to do
Like Live, it has a lot of depth that may not be obvious at first, so if you are looking for a more arrangement-based companion that has the same strengths as Live, I'd highly recommend spending some time with Studio One.

Cheers,

Thomas

[kb420]

I haven't tried a demo of S1 yet, but I must say that I haven't read anything bad about it at all. Everyone who has seemed to have spent any time with it has been impressed.

[pencilrocket]

It's all about the workflow of the user, not features. You're an epic fail. DAMN NOOB! ;p

Workflow don't privide features. You can't get job done efficiently if you don't have features. You can't realize it because you are noob. You escaped your argument to your subjective opinion. Funny man.

[chelemasty]

It's all about the workflow of the user, not features. You're an epic fail. DAMN NOOB! ;p

Workflow don't privide features. You can't get job done efficiently if you don't have features. You can't realize it because you are noob. You escaped your argument to your subjective opinion. Funny man.

Sigh, you're clearly a noob. They all have features idiot. So, its all up to the user what is the one that suits to his workflow. And saying Cubase is better than Studio One makes you even more noob. Why? That's just your opinion. People will not be switching from cubase to S1 if cubase is better damn noob.

[dna598]

Whilst Studio One v2 has melodyne built in (meh, personally), it (like Logic) has copied its Tansient editing right out of LIve, BUT still has not improved on it one bit (like logic).

You still cant audition a slice (easily)!

DUH!

(may i be proved wrong)

edit-I don't care though as i use Live, Not studio one.

[DangerousDave]

I've loved our fireside chats with the princess of monolakey but ableton the company has always been mute and it's enough to make me want to cry
now somebody pass me a henke so I might wipe my tears

[Dmerricka]

Studio one is live ish in that it is simple. I dont need most of the stuff it has even still. I have meladyne DNA but don't like how it works in any daw but now with ARS it's rad. Live could have this cuz it's free code. Studio one's warping shit actully kicks lives ass. Again live rules but has no good way to do good comp edits and again no 64bit. I love live but I can't even rewire it into studio one as again no 64bit. I'm not jumping on the new thing. Live was so refreshing the min it got midi but now they are starting to follow. Yes for Orc stuff live may not have been the best choice but it has worked great as I use live a tape deck. I don't quantize but to be honest when you see Studio ones groove quantizing, transit detection stuff it is amazing. A guy has a video on the their forum were he takes a wings song with multiple time signatures and tempo changes and warps it and makes a tempo map pretty fast. It makes me want to find a reason to do that like maybe stop recording with a click track map it and have NI machine follow it. Anyways I'm thrilled that people are talking about this because I'm pissed that I've bought 8 versions of live and had to jump ship.

[johnnyvn]

It's funny, the dialog here.

I'm new to Live. I've been on ProTools for over a decade...but now, they want $1500 for me to upgrade from PT8 to PT10. That's steep enough to make a guy a little bothered. Knowha'msayin?

My buddy and I have been doing a remix in Live, and I gotta say, our results are impressive to me, so today I took the plunge and ordered up the Live 8 Suite.

I guess what's funny to me is that the grass is always greener somewhere else, right? Coming from ProTools, am I gonna be really disappointed in Live? I don't think so. ProTools chokes with just a few Virtual Instruments in play. Live seems to be working well so far.

I'll report back in a few weeks. In the meanwhile, if you're jumping ship off of Live, good luck.