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Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:29 pm
by Angstrom
James Fowler wrote:What does the Chord MIDI plugin do that is built into live? Any tips or links on how to use it?

Im basically trying to do 2 things-create some nice, interesting chord progressions.
-tune all my percusion, synths, hits & vox to the melody
you'd be better off using the Scale device.

pick a scale from the presets (if you are unsure of musical scales yourself) then you can just throw your fists at a keyboard and it will be vaguely jazz.
However, I'd advise a scout around the net to understand how scales are formed and try that info out using the scale plugin. Even a little knowledge will help you a lot, and the basic musical theory knowledge will build toward something.

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:11 pm
by simmerdown
the chord tool will make a chord from a single note, use the presets to get an idea, but like angstrom said, seek out a bit of basic music theory to help with...everything

but, it will not help with chord progressions, which you should also come across in your search of basic theory

you can google or wiki common chord progressions as a jumping off point

heres a lil visual that might help

http://www.8notes.com/school/theory/com ... ssions.asp

8notes.com has a bunch of free PDFs to music theory that are another good place to start imo

http://www.8notes.com/theory/

as for tuning drums, perc etc, any of the tuner vst above will do, but theory will still help with that bc straitup tuning to the root note can sometimes make for a less interesting result that harmonizing all the parts (within the chosen key)

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:14 am
by James Two
simmerdown wrote:i use tuneit vst...just a guitar tuner, but i tune the sht out of everything, drums too...1st in my chain for every track...

http://tuneit.free.fr/Site/Home.html

So say I want to do some sample collage stuff. Maybe a horn line from one record, some vocals from another, and maybe some filtered bass from another. If I put this in every chain, it will tell me the key that sample is in, and then I can adjust the sample accordingly to make them fit together properly?

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:25 am
by simmerdown
it will tell you the note that the given sample is...the first note of a musical phase will very often tell you the key, but its not 100% (theres are invversion, blah blah), not exact science

use it + your ear and you'll get close...

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:35 pm
by Angstrom
simmerdown wrote:it will tell you the note that the given sample is...the first note of a musical phase will very often tell you the key, but its not 100% (theres are invversion, blah blah), not exact science

use it + your ear and you'll get close...
Lol, orly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aHGMDf42lw

8O :lol:

Yeah, I think reading up on the theory is a good plan if you have a desire to do music for the rest of your life. Otherwise it's like trying to be a boxer by simply copying moves from boxing movies.

Of course there are plenty of geniuses who never learned what a subdominant is, but unless you are lucky enough to be howlin wolf it's worth learning the rudiments of the craft. I only know the rudiments btw. But I couldnt be without them.

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:58 pm
by oddstep
that Live patch is $17.!

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:27 pm
by simmerdown
'Lol, orly'

whats orly

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:42 pm
by Angstrom
simmerdown wrote:'Lol, orly'

whats orly
Image

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/o-rly

my infantilisation knows no bounds
O RLY is internet slang for “OH REALLY?” with implicit sarcasm. Since gaining traction through with usage on Internet forums, O RLY has become a popular deadpan response to any statement that is deemed either highly doubtful or obviously true.

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:37 pm
by simmerdown
'very often' is the key word in what i said, and that is true, the guy is not dave brubeck asking

you have to try to asses your audience, something the pocket protector contingent dont seem to get, they want to blather all they know regardless

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:45 pm
by oddstep
what's a pocket protector? is it a good thing?

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:57 pm
by simmerdown
well yeh, aside from protecting your plaid buttondown from exploding pens, it imparts an almost magical wit, wisdom and unending streams of condescension, its great

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:36 pm
by savyurrecords
Edited Redundant post.

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:07 pm
by 1.A.M.
Angstrom wrote:
simmerdown wrote:it will tell you the note that the given sample is...the first note of a musical phase will very often tell you the key, but its not 100% (theres are invversion, blah blah), not exact science

use it + your ear and you'll get close...
Lol, orly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aHGMDf42lw

8O :lol:

Yeah, I think reading up on the theory is a good plan if you have a desire to do music for the rest of your life. Otherwise it's like trying to be a boxer by simply copying moves from boxing movies.

Of course there are plenty of geniuses who never learned what a subdominant is, but unless you are lucky enough to be howlin wolf it's worth learning the rudiments of the craft. I only know the rudiments btw. But I couldnt be without them.

Now that I saw this video I could not get back on my 4 on the floor track that i'm workin'.....pfaaaaaa :x
THAT IS a REAL MUSICian...nice !

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:26 pm
by James Two
I am having trouble installing the Tuneit VST. I am running Ableton Suite 8.2.7 on a MBP with OSX 10.6.8. I downloaded the VST Plugin for OSX bundle. And I dragged the tunit.vst in my library. User/Library/Audio/Plugins/VST folder. But when I open Ableton I can't find the VST anywhere. I think it should be in my plug in devices/user folder but its not showing up? Can anyone please help?

Re: Key Reference VST

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:57 pm
by rhythmaker
tuneit is my favorite vst tuner ... if your recording by yourself just put it on the master track