Ultimate Ears by Logitech; Capital Rec Mastering: Seen this?

[Linear Phase]

If you buy high quality in-ear monitors for something else than live performance youre officially a moron.

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Good to have on a noisy subway though....

Oh that's clever.. what if you buy high quality, noise isolating in ear monitors, to go into a vocal booth, and record a great track? What if you buy them, to get a different picture of your mix, like you should always be playing your mixes through anything.. a car stereo, a club, computer speakers, laptop speakers, several different pro studio monitors..

open mind = open imagination = great music

[illsub1]

I disagree about mixing with in-ears. I use my Etymotic ER-4P's with great results. The noise isolation means I can hear EVERYTHING. At a Richard Devine masterclass, he showed some great mixes for an Acura commercial he did. He stated he did it outside on his laptop. I asked what equipment he was using. Answer: Ultimate Ears and macbook pro internal sound card...

[The Carpet Cleaner]

lol I don't know about you, but I'm sure if I spend a day mixing with in-ear monitors, I'll sleep with a nice buzzing...

[Machinesworking]

I disagree about mixing with in-ears. I use my Etymotic ER-4P's with great results. The noise isolation means I can hear EVERYTHING. At a Richard Devine masterclass, he showed some great mixes for an Acura commercial he did. He stated he did it outside on his laptop. I asked what equipment he was using. Answer: Ultimate Ears and macbook pro internal sound card...

Hey if you want to spend $999 on these because you think it will make you produce and mix like Richard Devine, then go ahead, I'm not stopping you.
You will however never be able to convince me it's a good idea.

[Linear Phase]

I disagree about mixing with in-ears. I use my Etymotic ER-4P's with great results. The noise isolation means I can hear EVERYTHING. At a Richard Devine masterclass, he showed some great mixes for an Acura commercial he did. He stated he did it outside on his laptop. I asked what equipment he was using. Answer: Ultimate Ears and macbook pro internal sound card...

Hey if you want to spend $999 on these because you think it will make you produce and mix like Richard Devine, then go ahead, I'm not stopping you.
You will however never be able to convince me it's a good idea.

Here's a pair of monitors that are $1350...

http://www.logitech.com/en-us//ue/custom-in-ear-m onitors/devices/18-Pro

so the capital records ones, are not the most expensive menu item, imo...

here is a pair of headphones for $20...

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/ue/ue-ear ... ices/UE100

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don't just knock the $999 headphones. $999 seems like the right price, for professional mastering headphones... a real mastering room, is going to cost several thousand to build.. I know everybody is mastering on their kitchen table, and, "calling it a master," but.. give me a break.

Real... Professional mastering, takes a pro room. OR! its 2012.. technology changes. what if you can remove the room. always be in the sweet spot.

Maybe there is a competitor for this product.. lol.. I'm searching. I like this idea. Im not stuck in the "desktop studio monitor/speaker is the monitor" way of thinking

although, I

[Linear Phase]

appreciate your point of view..

[bicarbone]

this thread inspired me to make my own gawdy, useless banner, that takes up too much space,
now how do you get it to link to spam?

[Rabalder]

If you buy high quality in-ear monitors for something else than live performance youre officially a moron.

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Good to have on a noisy subway though....

Oh that's clever.. what if you buy high quality, noise isolating in ear monitors, to go into a vocal booth, and record a great track? What if you buy them, to get a different picture of your mix, like you should always be playing your mixes through anything.. a car stereo, a club, computer speakers, laptop speakers, several different pro studio monitors..

open mind = open imagination = great music

For any kind of live performance, whether its in a studio or on stage = good idea.
Ive used in-ear monitors for several years. Buying a pair exclusivly for mixing = not a good idea.

open mind = open imagination = great music

....and a little bit of talent would probably do some good.

[3dot...]

I can imagine me ..getting 1K$ headphones...
although I would never get 'in ears'..
for one thing...
the bass response on (all) in-ear monitors I know is "emulated"..
the small diaphragms..cannot produce bass freqs in reality..
for monitoring yourself.. it will suffice..

but for mixing/mastering... NOT !
it's a bad reference imo..

about R.Devine...
the guy sponsors almost every piece of audio making software/hardware..
that being said..
a laptop + headphones is the most minimalist setup I know for 'in the box' music..
maybe that's what he meant.. and not specifically these headphones..
also... have you EVER listened to his music ?
he does clicks and bleeps.. just saying...

I'm finding it very hard to beilieve that these headphones sound so much better... and are ultra-balanced..

and like I said before.. small headphone drivers = low-end emulated..

[friend_kami]

not only what has been said in this thread, but also this:

The Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitors are expected to be available beginning in September for a suggested retail price of $999 (U.S.). (The price of the Ultimate Ears In-Ear Reference Monitors does not include the initial cost to have a qualified audiologist create ear impressions.)

source: http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/ulti ... r_recordi/

[rikhyray]

Using IEM fsince the earliest days, my band got those mid 90s at the Messe from the "innovators", dont remember the name of the company (somewhere North London) anyway the best for stage (BTW. those days they were doing the moulds but were getting hardware from Sony). Since them there are some really good in ears from Etymotic, Shure and UE that work great with and without custom moulds.
Regarding studio, not for me. Tried for few months (Ultimate Ears) and gave up, too tiring, unhealthy in many ways (pressure, no fresh air access). It is different 1-2 hours on stage, something else for more hours. The accuracy is amazing, the details etc, specially the better models of UE and Shure. However headphones are addition not replacement for monitors, the best they can do is for tracking replacing DT 100 or HD 25 but not really for mixing or mastering (when myself and most people I know like to compare= put cans on off all the time and with IEM it is literally PITE-pain in the ears to do.
Regarding custom moulds, the UE guys told me that i did not really need that, unless for better isolation, but that it does not apply to everyone just that in my case the fit was fine.
Anyway I minimised IEM to stage use only, even for sports, on move listening prefer on ears- for the hygiene, health reasons.

[starving student]

I was serious though, I'd be interested in what the competition has to say if there is any, second opinions are always useful even if they only make a lie twice as big tis easier to see.

[rikhyray]

I was serious though, I'd be interested in what the competition has to say if there is any, second opinions are always useful even if they only make a lie twice as big tis easier to see. :wink:

I compared Shure, Ultimate Ears, Weston and must say that Shure and Ultimate Ears better models ( say from 200$ up) are all excellent in definition, details and interesting enough the people from the 2 companies had high opinion about others products. All those better models from the 2 will give you exceptional audio quality. The question 1 do i (anyone) need/ care to have such quality for stage monitoring ? Not, really, overkill for the purpose. For studio ? For what ? Idea how it sound on end user iPod ? Then get 1$ earphone. Mixing mastering help, impractical because of what I mention before hassle putting them in out of your ears and useless for anything else then detecting micro errors etc, also kind of audio magnifying glass.
Regarding mixing and mastering engineers spending this amount of money on proper espresso machine might have much more positive influence on final results. And seriously HD 800, at similar price will be way more usable.

[starving student]

i use some shure in ears for recording vocals cause when I use anything else my mic picks it up, I don't know how people record vocals especially while holding only one side of a pair of cans up to their heads

[3dot...]

actually...
I don't know if it's a myth or fact...
but I've been told David Bowie is known to record with speaker monitors.. (in-AIR)