Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by Linear Phase » Mon May 14, 2012 10:54 pm

I am not saying, "yes or no," to the question; I will offer that, "whenever dynamics in music are removed by max volume, max compression, a new form must appear in some other way." That seems to be more a law of newton than art. For every action...

That said.. At this point, your tracks will sound pretty run of the mill, if you base your whole production on kick and snare rolls.... And a cheesy two note lead with extra mod wheel.
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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by 3dot... » Mon May 14, 2012 10:58 pm

break it down !!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by nopattern » Mon May 14, 2012 11:02 pm

a few short breaks can be good, for deep house you certainly don't need a full on breakdown.

have you checked other remixes on the label to see what the breakdowns are like? If it's a more formulaic label they may look for something like that

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by matthews » Mon May 14, 2012 11:04 pm

It all depends what kind of music you're writing imo...

certain genres lend themselves to breakdowns. You're not going to (or very rarely) find a trance track that has no breakdown. Alternatively, you're not going to (or very rarely) find detroit/dub techno or deep house tracks that have a long, drawn out breakdown either.

Everything is just a guideline though, do what sounds best to you, its your music afterall.

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by synnack » Mon May 14, 2012 11:19 pm

Agreed with folks that nothing is necessary other than what works. May be a breakdown. Might not be.

However no dark without light, no fast without slow, no pleasure without pain, and many other cliches hold true. Breakdowns exist so that kicking have power. If a kickin err.. "drop" isn't needed, you may not need the breakdown. Breakdowns don't' have to be full on (no drums). Sometimes to me a breakdown can just be a section that's less complex to create variety and let the ear relax. It's not a binary.
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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by distaudio » Mon May 14, 2012 11:54 pm

"Every electronic song needs a breakdown otherwise it is not real music" - Skrillex

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by CR78 » Tue May 15, 2012 12:52 am

I like to make Break-Offs:

just automate a tempo decrease to about 20bpm over eight bars while separatley automating upwards to 100% wet using Valhalla's Shimmer on an fx return.

Judges will WTF your labor of love but the Kids(your audience) will love the shimmery/sparkly stuff and you're sure to win a prize.

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by 3dot... » Tue May 15, 2012 12:56 am

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by matthews » Tue May 15, 2012 2:03 am

distaudio wrote:"Every electronic song needs a breakdown otherwise it is not real music" - Skrillex
lol

He also said Aphex Twin - Film was his favourite song of all time, which really doesn't have a breakdown.

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by oneder » Tue May 15, 2012 5:51 am

For the sake of the future of ALL of us here on Earth, please be original and follow noone...

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by distaudio » Tue May 15, 2012 6:02 am

oneder wrote:For the sake of the future of ALL of us here on Earth, please be original and follow noone...
I'm going to follow your advise.......... oh.... right.

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by Rabalder » Tue May 15, 2012 7:53 am

3dot... wrote:surely you'd need some kind of consciousness though right ?
Yeah.... But then there is the famos line: "does a tree falling in the forest make a sound if no one is there to hear it"..
I guess the key ingreedient in music, at least from a human beings perspective, is a human being..

So.., if the human being is removed all together, would there still be music?

Hard to say.. :?

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by noisetonepause » Tue May 15, 2012 10:33 am

3dot... wrote:I always thought music = arrangement of sounds on some time-scale... (by a human)
Music is in the ear of the behearer.

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Re: Are "breakdowns" 100% necessary in Electronic Music?

Post by 3dot... » Tue May 15, 2012 10:42 am

yes but the wind and the waves do not fall under the dry calssification of music...
they might be "music to your ears" as they say,,,

apparently this has been discussed to death already hundreds of years ago..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition ... efinitions
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