Fuck Bitwig.

[Tone Deft]

Actually I just wrote to Ableton asking when 9 was coming out. I'll let you know what they say.

[andydes]

All I'm saying is none of this weirdness is likely to be as it seems.

d) They thought they were ready and found one or more issues in alpha testing which they need to fix. They don't want to risk starting off with a flakey piece of software and get a bad reputation.

It's not weird, it's what happens if you work in any kind of development

[Tone Deft]

cheers Tone!

totally. give 'em hell!!

[donmich]

All I'm saying is none of this weirdness is likely to be as it seems.

d) They thought they were ready and found one or more issues in alpha testing which they need to fix. They don't want to risk starting off with a flakey piece of software and get a bad reputation.

It's not weird, it's what happens if you work in any kind of development

That only explains the delay (on either side). The very existence of BW is whats weird (or retarded) If you work in any kind of for-profit business environment - at least without something like b & c being the case.

We'll see though.

[fedexnman]

Ableton vs Bitwig is like Sprint vs Boost . I still got that feeling I could be wrong though .

[Machinesworking]

Actually I just wrote to Ableton asking when 9 was coming out. I'll let you know what they say.

I think that's your new sig is it not?

[Tone Deft]

lmfao for real. you know me better than I know mice elf.

used with respect funken.

[simmerdown]

too early to say fuck bitwig

too early to say yay! bitwig

too early to say shit about it because it doesn't even exist yet...maybe it never will

[Ub373NNN]

i thinking on sony will drop acid pro 8 in the 64 bit before the bitwig and the abelton all go out for sales.

[Machinesworking]

too early to say fuck bitwig

too early to say yay! bitwig

too early to say shit about it because it doesn't even exist yet...maybe it never will

Bitwig Faceplant post yesterday:

The first round of beta testing will be starting in the next few weeks. We expect the middle of next month. Sorry again for the delays.

So they said Spring, looks like the end of Spring...
Like I've said though, unless they really improve on Live's live performance aspects and somehow make a 1.0 release stable I'm only partially interested.

[H20nly]

i thinking on sony will drop acid pro 8 in the 64 bit before the bitwig and the abelton all go out for sales.

[3dot...]

I dont know about myth. But BW's snaffoo has ableton written all over it. Same pr skills too.
Although I emailed them once and they replied rather quickly (as does ableton). They just arent big on making ongoing public announcements I guess.
Their model doesnt make sense from a business standpoint. At least not what we know about it. So if we were betting folks or potential investors, having to make some guesses, deductions and assumptions a few things seem to come to mind, at least for me

a) they are ableton and merely test marketing or guaging public response on the feature set. Everything we say here about it is being watched closely.

b) BW could be a sister "step-down" company which will have leaner, trendier, say- "EDM production oriented" code and be updated more regularly while Live remains a flagship version of itself with less pressure to frequently update

c) there could be some mergers/aquistions/ leveraged buyout action going on and either "b" could be part of the roadmap or they found a legal way to break off and protect their invention/key people from being subsumed and compromised from some menacing future inevitability - like having to work and conform with Logic's engineers (as only a possible example).

All I'm saying is none of this weirdness is likely to be as it seems.

always looking for the angle eh ?


so what's supposed to happen according to your scenario/s ?
Ableton sells the brand to Apple and moves into the BW offices with all the cash ?!

people sometimes drive me crazy with all these mumbo jumbo conspiracy theories over any possible thing involving humans....
if anyone was to pull a "scam" it would not be that obvious...give smart people some credit will ya ?
besides.. isn't it best to sell when your stocks are peaking ???

[3dot...]

Like I've said though, unless they really improve on Live's live performance aspects and somehow make a 1.0 release stable I'm only partially interested.

this.

[Angstrom]

I just can't wait to see the two-way forum beat up.

On BitWig forum : WHy U no Have Ableton feATURE X ??!?!

On Ableton forum : whY yu NO have BitwiG fEATure Z ??!?!

I will be setting up a popcorn stand.

[H20nly]

^ if only we could all be rendered into 3D bobble heads for the event.