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Unity at DNC = Applauding Obama but everyone secretly wishing that Clinton would run again.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Unity at DNC = Unabashed love and adulation of the federal government and a firm belief that the average American is utterly incapable of wiping his/her own ass without it..

Zoe Lihn will continue to disagree for as long as she can.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Unity at DNC = Applauding Obama but i'm secretly wishing that Ron Paul would stand a chance.

fixed.

Well, at least with Ron Paul we'd save about a TRILLION dollars in overseas adventure spending... Probably enough for this goofy socialized healthcare program that all of you seem to be so keen on....

Even have enough left over for a NATIONAL WIFI SYSTEM.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Unity at DNC = Applauding Obama but everyone secretly wishing that Clinton would run again.

not surprising it's obviously still america, too many our worried that Obama will take lady liberty's black heart from her, but her foundation is still firmly in tact.
look at good ole ted, the very sight of obama strikes so much fear in his rotten bones that he swears he'll be dead or in jail, even though no one has taken his guns, his food, his homes, or lifestyle he has always known. He'll simply go to jail or die because he's afraid of the dark

... i see what you did at the end there.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Well, at least with Ron Paul we'd save about a TRILLION dollars in overseas adventure spending... Probably enough for this goofy socialized healthcare program that all of you seem to be so keen on....

Even have enough left over for a NATIONAL WIFI SYSTEM.

no wifi for you…….the repubs god won't let you have it

H20nly wrote: ... i see what you did at the end there.

Pfft.

Honestly, it's quite staggering how many basic freedoms have been taken away over the last couple of decades - especially by the Patriot Act and various neverending acts of 'Executive Orders'.

Bottom line? Government simply loves CONTROL. Always has, always will. You can wrap it in whatever feel fucking good cause célèbre of the moment that's tugging at your heartstrings, but every single day something gets TAKEN AWAY. Inch by inch.

I see no evidence whatsoever that the Dems give two shits about this basic fact. Indeed, as usual they have their hands out and asses in the air.

I see lip service on the part of Republicans that they care about freedoms - at least until they trip over themselves to build a giant wall between the USA and Mexico and fail to realize that the Soviets also once built a wall.

Question: When is the last time that Government at any level passed a law that actually GAVE you more freedom?

I'll wait.

I will admit, however, to a certain love of Hillary Clinton. I think she's a real ass kicker, and has done a respectable job as Sec of State. I was actually rooting for her 4 years ago in the primary, and feel she would have made a much better President than Obama. He really is quite out of his depth.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Unity at DNC = Unabashed love and adulation of the federal government and a firm belief that the average American is utterly incapable of wiping his/her own ass without it..

Ability to wipe their own arse isn't the problem. It's what they do with the paper.

LoopStationZebra wrote:I will admit, however, to a certain love of Hillary Clinton. I think she's a real ass kicker, and has done a respectable job as Sec of State. I was actually rooting for her 4 years ago in the primary, and feel she would have made a much better President than Obama. He really is quite out of his depth.

the fact that her and obama agree on almost everything but the fact that she would rather be president now and that she wanted to go into iraq is only made more funny by the fact that you like her sooo much better lol, you're right about one thing though america ain't changed.

on the other hand obamacare gave people more freedom to see a doctor


wow chuck really…. a thousand years of darkness hahaha

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episod ... tom-brokaw

LoopStationZebra wrote:Pfft.

Honestly, it's quite staggering how many basic freedoms have been taken away over the last couple of decades - especially by the Patriot Act and various neverending acts of 'Executive Orders'.

Bottom line? Government simply loves CONTROL. Always has, always will. You can wrap it in whatever feel fucking good cause célèbre of the moment that's tugging at your heartstrings, but every single day something gets TAKEN AWAY. Inch by inch.

I see no evidence whatsoever that the Dems give two shits about this basic fact. Indeed, as usual they have their hands out and asses in the air.

I see lip service on the part of Republicans that they care about freedoms - at least until they trip over themselves to build a giant wall between the USA and Mexico and fail to realize that the Soviets also once built a wall.

patriot act was put in place by republicans - google PNAC to find roots.

everyone has their hands out... you'd rather put loot in the hands of defense contractors than public welfare? no, you don't want to put loot anywhere but your pocket, your bank account, the Apple store and so on... all about you.

...thats okay i guess, but lets not pretend that dems are worse than others. the Bushes and the Romneys of this world don't ONLY want your money... they want more of our freedoms than the rest of the politricktions - dems/libs... anyone. that's what sets them the furthest apart... the fuck you poor people, fuck you immigrants, fuck you right in your uterus and ignore what you feel about it, fuck the environment, and fuck anything that gets in the way of the defense spending and oil flow that lead to $$,$$$,$$$.00 big paychecks type attitude they wag in our faces.