Changing Patches Live - The Solution

[nguru23]

There is one major hurdle to this solution that I have just painfully discovered.

If you want to use automation dummy clips to change your presets you are buggered. Apparently with Live 9, new clips take on the parameters for the last MANUALLY set value. So if you use a dummy clip to change say from a Massive bass sound to a piano sound, but the last time you manually selected a sound you selected a trumpet, then when you either insert a clip or record a new clip, it will revert to the last manually set parameter which is a trumpet....not good.

If anyone knows a workaround for this to still allow using dummy clips to change the presets using the above methods, it would be amazing. Right now, I'm back to manual changing (the dummy clips still sets the preset, but I have to repeat the chain selector setting to lock in a manual parameter...painful)

Actually, live 9 still contains the relative modulation as in ableton 8, it just harder to find :
1. make sure the clip you want to modulation is currently playing
2. right click the parameter you want to modulate, then select "show modulation" (Show automation is the absolute one)
3. edit your envelope -> done

[yur2die4]

I think it is funny how this thread consistently interweaves conversation between two completely different practices for selecting instruments haha

[SittingPanther]

A huge thumbs up to this too. It has helped me out no end, thank you LevelSongD.

Absolutely miniscule quibble: I would love this to be able to easily hold a sustained note/chord and not cut it off abruptly when turning the instrument off.

Reverb freeze possibly?

[baseinstinct]

Or first block incoming midi notes in case of this instrument.

[hands]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slSLtCbi-tY

[Mr Mowgli]

The tutorial was useful Baseinstinct thanks man

[Andycode]

shadx312 sir, you are the best!

Really I've been dealing around this issue for quite a long time and I've being testing different approaches to have my setup as clean, fast and reliable possible, as it should be. Until now I've been using the snaphots/program changes method and the chain selector for changing between different VTSs but sometimes program changes automated are ignored (This is probably the most anoying thing for me specially when playing live and that no one seems to talk about), so this leaves me to believe that program changes in clips, though are a way to change presets in an instruments, are NOT 100% reliable for playing live.

I will try this approach tomorrow definitely! Thanks mate

[Ubik]

Hello,
Sorry to revive an old thread but i'm trying to map the chain selector to turn device on/off as explained by shadx312 but i can't get it to work. It works for the instrument in my rack but not for the others. I must have done something wrong but i can't find what...



You can see here that i'm on chain 1 but the device is not activated.

[regretfullySaid]

Looks like Reaktor device is off

[Ubik]

Sorry, i uploaded the wrong capture here it is :


The device on chain 1 should be activated no ?

[chapelier fou]

edited. drunk.

[Ubik]

bump

[JimmyTime]

I'm glad I found this recently revived post. Am about to attempt something similar, it also being the first time I'm attempting to link a MIDI device to Ableton

I have Live 9, and a Roland GR-20 guitar synth with MIDI out. Would this technique you're describing work with a set couple of buttons (up / down)? I understand the rotary encoder style solution, but not sure if I'll get the same effect from the two singular buttons on my guitar synth that I'd like to use to cycle up/down between 'patches', (aka turning each VST on/off)

[Ubik]

The problem is that you can't midi map 2 different buttons on the same macro. Otherwise with a button that decrement/increment it should be doable. Btw, the solution to make the rack working properly is here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=217173

[Newcombe_154]

Good morning,

I am looking for some help on two different issues. These could be simple, but here goes.

I want to launch midi maps and send them to a TR-8, bass station, juno 106 and a JP-08. I have read everywhere and as far as i can tell form what i have researched, I have it set up correctly.

The TR-8 : works intermittently and I can control the map on ableton and play it through TR-8 Machine.

Q: anyone know why sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't? the machine is responding to the midi clock, but no sound played, only intermittently.

Q: Bass station, I'm sending the Midi map , but no notes are paying from the unit. Can anyone suggest why?

Q: is there a tutorial that can show me how to control patches on the bass station or JP-08, or even the juno 106?

Thanks in advance,

Spencer.