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You're serious?

Bezier curves are in?

OMFG please wake me up - this has to be a dream - Bezier curves - I can finally make proper music.

^ at last.

get new excuses for not making music here.





since "uses too much RAM" & " but my CPU" are popular excuses... maybe the simple type GUI is better than the glossy flashy look at me now type GUI.

ian_halsall wrote:wtf does meh mean?

See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meh

Some have speculated that its origin is Yiddish because of its similarity to the interjection "feh".[citation needed] The word appears in the 1936 classic film Yidl Mitn Fidl as the transliteration of the sound a goat makes.[5][original research?]

i had a damn good guess! cookie please

andydes wrote:

rchrdnsh wrote: No retina support.

How in Satan's glorious name can you tell that from the video?

And even if it's not, keeping up with OS developments has always been a point update anyway.

The leaked Devices video occasionally zooms in on the UI. It zooms past 100% resolution and retains vector like UI. It doesn't pixelate. This would lead me to believe that we'll eventually see Retina support if not at the time of release.

See here: http://cl.ly/image/1e3N2y1O332o

Live 9 is Push. If you don't want Push you don't need Live. That's all.

the ui is the most attractive thin with live.
it's unintrusive, no bells and whistles, functional and does what it says.
in short: it doesn't take focus away from the thing that matters.

Live's UI has always been a combination of nice clean layout and too flat to give appropriate dimensional information when it's needed. Soon after you pop out of your mom's belly, chances are someone plopped a toy in front of you that had a button. That button wasn't a square painted on a flat surface. It was big and shiny. Candy like. So we're all taught that from birth, yet companies like Ableton and Google (wtf did they do to gmail?) feel that is too "antiquated" or maybe baroque? The truth is, I've looked at tons of video game play-testing and the time taken to find the correct button to click on increases by a lot when there's a little bevel or drop shadow effect. This isn't an opinion, it's truth. A good UI artist/designer puts some information in the elements that tell the user what's an information display and what's a button or what's both.

So, I'm not urging Ableton to make something dumb looking like FL Studio, but they could keep the current look and layout and add some gradients and drop shadows to buttons, sliders and knobs to make them pop a little. Think about it this way... if it's good for Push, why wouldn't it be good for your virtual UI?

Stay away from the gradients or I cut you!

shadx312 wrote:Stay away from the gradients or I cut you!

It doesn't have to hit the user over the head... just some shading here and there would work wonders...

Bitwig alert.

There needs to be some consistency. Yes, you want the feeling that you've bought something with your money, but at the same time, don't want the product changing so much that you spend all your time relearning stuff. Even layout changes can make a difference (as Microsoft Word users will tell you).
Bitwig looks good. But still beta. If I wanted to spend money and get frustrated with something crashing all over the place - Id buy a REN. At least I'd get a box with loads of pretty lights all over it...

Live 9 is a massive disappointment to me. Sooooo many things unaddressed after so long. I've personally have a list of near 100 improvements, from large to small, and almost none of them have been addressed...

AUTOMATION DELAY COMPENSATION
Multiple Arrangements
Multiple open files
Editable Bezier Curves
S-Curves
Track/Clip Comping
Bounce in Place
Edit multiple Clips Together
Audio Bin
MIDI Bin
Envelope Bin
Warping in Simpler/Sampler
Nested Grouping
Template Management
Modern and Elegant UI
Retina Display Support
Screensets
Multiple Monitor Support
Automation Points That Snap to Grid
Arrange View Clip Launcher
Edit Swing of Selected Notes
Edit Pocket of Selected Notes
Edit Accent Patterns of Selected Notes
Stackable Clip Modules
Larger Meters Between Plugz in Device Chain
Minutes:Seconds Counter in Menu Bar
Shuffle and Slip Editing in the Arrange Page
Nested Pad Samples in Drum Racks
Melodyne Integration


...off the top of my head...

...to name a few...

...so...

meh.


:-/