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The lfos don't really do it either I am afraid.

I tried that. You end up drawing loads of automation to change the shape and they don't work as well and give you as much control as drawing automation.

Honestly I write so much automation into my tracks and although I have tried used the new curved stuff in Live 9 I have taken it out quickly because for me (and a load of people on the beta forum) it is not useful at all.

Maybe they deliberately didn't put the curve palette in there because they are really pushing people down the m4l route...

I haven't used Cubase for years or Massive at all, but I do a lot of 3d modelling & Photoshop work in my day job and using bezier curves are much more ideal than what's currently implemented in Live (not saying they're useless).
Being able to break the tangents is important also.

Actually, trying to do these, getting a sine wave is practically impossible.
Couldn't you get triangle and square without the use of curved automation? Their very nature being straight lines.
The more I think about the way it's implemented the more I'm starting to agree with you. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's rubbish but would say it's not very versatile.

Yeah - triangles and squares - agreed.

But they way I would have liked to have seen it work is you select an area of automation and you click on the curve palette and voila - it fills it with a triangle or sine or square or exp.

The difficulty is the frequency but this can be set with parameter or something.

The reason I said it was rubbish is why go to the trouble of doing this but not actually listen to the ways people actually use automation.

And I like the word rubbish - a lot