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My guess is that the old hardware, based on low-end chips, got pricier to manufacture.

Personally I'm really disappointed in Novation. I was hoping that a LP update would bring multi-coloured pads. That would make it worth upgrading for me because I could abandon the screen completely. I don't need half the stuff Push does, but I guess it's the only way to get coloured pads.

intensemojo wrote:no velocity pads? total missed opportunity Novation

Livid base is the only one with balls when it comes to competition. 32 full size velocity sensitive pads with aftertouch. I'm almost caving in soon and getting one.

Er... They didn't even update the Ableton logo in the top right corner. What's that all about? While I'm happy that they're keeping the LP alive, it's weird that they didn't take any cues from the LPC mod: they should have put a SHIFT button in the top right corner, which could, for instance, turn the bottom four rows of buttons into temporary stop, "track activator," solo and arm buttons on a per-track basis.

If I were handed one of these for free, I'd be happy to start using it (possibly even alongside my old one), but I don't see myself buying one.

intensemojo wrote:no velocity pads? total missed opportunity Novation

Leon Tricker wrote:Personally I'm really disappointed in Novation. I was hoping that a LP update would bring multi-coloured pads. That would make it worth upgrading for me because I could abandon the screen completely. I don't need half the stuff Push does, but I guess it's the only way to get coloured pads.

+1
Well, seems that MAudio or AKAI should come around with something own/new within "min 16 weeks"...or NI (?)....Oh no, please, don't start, MACHINE-Fanboys....

Correct me if I'm wrong be seems this "new" Launchpad has come out with no velocity sensitivity Push is still the only 8x8 pad controller with velocity sensitivity?

worth reading: the details of the launchpad s:

http://focusritedevelopmentteam.wordpre ... unchpad-s/

"A great advantage of being able to change the program space is that we can now add a configuration page. This allows a number of new features. One of the most important is that a user with more than one Launchpad S can now label them to give them different IDs, so that they can enumerate differently and software can determine which is which."
As a user of several launchpads with custom max patches, this will solve one of my main issue.

^ yeah at what cost? This could be a free firmware update. Strange product launch for sure. Looks like Ableton booted Novation out of the inner sanctum.

nowtime wrote:^ yeah at what cost? This could be a free firmware update. Strange product launch for sure. Looks like Ableton booted Novation out of the inner sanctum.

They changed the chip, board and leds

nowtime wrote:^ yeah at what cost? This could be a free firmware update. Strange product launch for sure. Looks like Ableton booted Novation out of the inner sanctum.

I agree, it's not very spectacular. But from a very personal point of view, regarding my live setup, i couldn't go for a Push or anything else. The smaller the better. And i need two of them, flipping the first one 90° counterclockwise. That's why i'll stick with LPs.

Having talked to a novation rep and seen one there's a fair amount under the hood to make it class compliant - new chip etc. And the brighter LEDs do look good, and the ipad mode looks good as well now there's a launchpad ipad app. All this non-ableton stuff may be because focusrite/novation are no longer the UK Ableton distributors, they now do it direct apparently, although novation still seem keen to integrate stuff with ableton - the new launchkey has a very nice clip launch mode.

Not enough to make me replace my old one, though if I was buying a new one I think I'd be happy enough especially at the price.

Apparently velocity sensitivity would have cost a lot more although I still think there's a market for a velocity sensitive LP at say £170 if the pads were good.

login wrote:

nowtime wrote:^ yeah at what cost? This could be a free firmware update. Strange product launch for sure. Looks like Ableton booted Novation out of the inner sanctum.

They changed the chip, board and leds

I wonder if it would be possible to solder the new chip to the old board... dont need no new leds, just more speed would be nice ....

#1thelark wrote:

login wrote:

nowtime wrote:^ yeah at what cost? This could be a free firmware update. Strange product launch for sure. Looks like Ableton booted Novation out of the inner sanctum.

They changed the chip, board and leds

I wonder if it would be possible to solder the new chip to the old board... dont need no new leds, just more speed would be nice ....

I doubt it, since the PCB board for it is new also.

#1thelark wrote:

login wrote:

nowtime wrote:^ yeah at what cost? This could be a free firmware update. Strange product launch for sure. Looks like Ableton booted Novation out of the inner sanctum.

They changed the chip, board and leds

I wonder if it would be possible to solder the new chip to the old board... dont need no new leds, just more speed would be nice ....

But ... WHY?