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Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:48 pm
by resutigel
It doesn't matter if you use loops or not, a fresh tune is a fresh tune. But if you keep doing the same thing over and over again it ceases to be fresh. Funky Drummer or Impeach the President still pop up from time to time and still sound great. If you're making tunes you love and that people react to insinctively then that's surely all that matters. Maybe your goal is to use a break in it's original form to recapture some old school simplicity.
I dont subscribe to the 'Sampling is a cop out' idea. Admittedly sampling brings with it a ready made atmosphere, unlike when you assemble the track from scratch, but it also locks you in to that soundcape, the more time you sample, the more you limit you colour palette or the type of brush stokes available to you. But great artists can make masterpieces in monotone. It could be argued that it's more risky nowadays (artistically speaking) to sample a full break or riff, what with everyone and their Thompson's Gazelle knowing them inside out and backwards (literally).
In short, go fourth an multisample, if you can live with yourself biting other people's stuff then build from scratch, if you like loops, loop out. But make something real and fresh. Then post it here...

Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:01 pm
by Jack McOck
Funk N. Furter wrote:So, hip hop was never original. I see.
Nope. But rap was.

:x

Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:15 pm
by störgeräusche
this thread needs 3phase :twisted:

Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:24 pm
by simmerdown
this thread needs and enema

Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:34 pm
by infernal.machine
There's a difference between sampling and stealing.

If you use a drum loop/musical loop from a sample pack and don't do anything to change it, you are stealing. If you pick out the kick& snare, layer it with some other sounds, and create your own beat, you are sampling.

If you take an 80s funk track and add a drum loop from a sample pack, you are stealing (see "Daft Punk"). If you take a vocal/ instrument sample and build your own track around it, you are sampling.

Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:37 pm
by lo.key
such a silly and ongoing debate (i wont even get into the specious 'sampling' vs 'stealing' drek). We stand on the shoulders of giants. Be honest about that, and push things forward. As long as the result is pleasingly creative novelty, then there is absolutely no problem with any creative approach. Is it a dull use of a loop? Then theres a problem. Is it pleasing? Then what possible problem is there?

We dont hold musicians in disdain because they dont build their own instruments, or if an orchestra hasnt written their own sheet music. All we care about is the pleasing noises they produce. End of story, in my opinion.

Re: Views on using drum loops and musical loops in your tracks.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:13 pm
by re:dream
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