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Jack McOck wrote:I'm more interested in why you want this...

I grew up In a dysfunctional Baptist family who couldn't answer my questions.

Funk N. Furter wrote:

Forge. wrote:I They were saying Paul was originally a Roman spy deliberately trying to spread disinformation, and Jesus & co. were actually much more militant, but Paul made them look much more passive so people didn't get the idea to be militant.

Even in the surviving Bible Jesus and co are clearly sort of primitive communists, and he lived in a time and place where many Jewish sects had a revolutionary position, so it's very likely.

If my knowledge of the bible is not up to scratch, I must apologise, but I do not recall Jesus ever promoting central banking, bloody revolution or child labor.

I remember years ago some scientists discovered the real Jesus face or smth. It was this:


The KKK, americans (those of "god bless america" and such idiocy) were so angry and shocked He resembles too much a taliban

someone said recently, if most people today sat next to jesus on a plane they'd probably report him to the flight attendent

nathannn wrote:

Jack McOck wrote:I'm more interested in why you want this...

I grew up In a dysfunctional Baptist family who couldn't answer my questions.

And you need a movie to tell you that most of the bible is symbolic?

Jack McOck wrote:

nathannn wrote:

Jack McOck wrote:I'm more interested in why you want this...

I grew up In a dysfunctional Baptist family who couldn't answer my questions.

And you need a movie to tell you that most of the bible is symbolic?

I dont need anything to explain symbolism what I want to know is where the bible came from. Who/how many people wrote the old testament who wrote the new testament, where are the original scrolls... Was the Bible just something made up by the Church of England to create order? If so is there evidence for this? There is only so much you can get from Wikipedia.

Jack McOck wrote:I must apologise, but I do not recall Jesus ever promoting central banking, bloody revolution or child labor.

2 out of 3. See Matthew 10:34.

Jack McOck wrote:

nathannn wrote:

Jack McOck wrote:I'm more interested in why you want this...

I grew up In a dysfunctional Baptist family who couldn't answer my questions.

And you need a movie to tell you that most of the bible is symbolic?

It is not "symbolic". It is simply WRONG The Church added "symbolic" after 1792, actually.

Funk N. Furter wrote:Now then, Marx did mention centralised banking, but he did not mention bloody revolution or child labour. He did expect some bloodshed, originating from the capitalist class of course.

Point ten of Marx's communist manifesto clearly calls for the "combination of education with industrial production" for kids. Marx also explains that since parents exploit their children, children should be entrusted to the state. As for bloody revolution, you yourself have admitted that your precious revolution would require force, because (and I paraphrase) people, not wanting their property to be confiscated, would most likely fight back, causing bloodshed.

Funk N. Furter wrote:I said primitive communist. Communism would not have been possible in Jesus' day. Even in Marx's day it would need the most advanced countries. Lack of that was why the Russian revolution deteriorated.

Indeed, you can't take what others have not yet produced. The true communist waits for hard-working entrepreneurs to do all the work for him, and then, when he believes that enough has been produced to satisfy his "basic needs", such as food, water and mouseless input methods, he takes it.

Funk N. Furter wrote:Maybe Jesus was clever enough to know that communism per se was impossible back then. Even so, his disciples created a communist-type lifestyle after he was executed. They had no personal property and shared everything didn't they? This was the closest they could get to communism at the time really.

Living in harmony and sharing is not the communist way. The communist way, as I have previously stated and as you have confirmed, is to violently take what is not rightfully yours, remove children from their parents, and destroy civilisation. This is what Marxy Marx preached, it is what every modern government is currently practicing, and as you may have noticed, civilisation is currently collapsing.

lowshelf wrote: 2 out of 3. See Matthew 10:34.

myrnova wrote: It is not "symbolic". It is simply WRONG The Church added "symbolic" after 1792, actually.

To answer both of you, Matthew 10:34 ("I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword") doesn't make any mention of central banking, but rather uses the term "sword" to symbolically mean ideological conflict or division.

For my closing comments, I refer you both to my signature.

Jack McOck wrote:

lowshelf wrote: 2 out of 3. See Matthew 10:34.

myrnova wrote: It is not "symbolic". It is simply WRONG The Church added "symbolic" after 1792, actually.

To answer both of you, Matthew 10:34 ("I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword") doesn't make any mention of central banking, but rather uses the term "sword" to symbolically mean ideological conflict or division.

For my closing comments, I refer you both to my signature.

don't talk crap. It is referred to old egyptian rituals, regarding stars. They copied all the ancient egyptian magic rituals. The sword had nothing to do with "division" or such. It was simply a magic ritual, as every "religion" it is simply connected to solar system cycles (planets). The rest is propaganda. The take magic rituals and words out of the real context ant they appear "political" or such...

Jack McOck wrote:

Guess why the apostles are 12... and the Christ 1... How comes it reminds 12 planets and 1 sun?...

I tell you one, cheese: born in a stable, his mother was virgin, dies, after three days reborn. Jesus Christ, right? No, Mithra (india), about 300 years before christian invention. Mythology is the same everywhere, because ancient human rituals are connected to the sky, the moon, the sun and the season. Wake up and smell the mummy Guess why "3 days". Guess why christmas and easter...