Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

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Re: Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

Post by methyl » Sat May 09, 2015 12:45 pm

phaded wrote:My experience with LK has not been especially stellar. Used to sell the products as Livkontrol, which was buggy as sh*t and never worked for me. Now renbranded and it still sounds like its buggy as hell, although the interface and functionality is improved. I'm not keen on paying for a product while its essentially a ongoing beta.

Highly reccomend the Lemur/ Pull / Touchable 3 combo. Extra points for having 2 iPads. Even more points if you add more touchscreens as well as bio-hacking a couple of cyborg-arms onto your frame to boot. Can attest to the stability & improvements in workflow with the above mentioned. Mature products and rock solid.
I know the Imaginando owner personally. He's a very talented developer and he comes from a high-end technology development sector, so I don't think the problem is his skills on code but more related to the struggle in getting beta testers and feedback from them. Imaginando is based on a city where practically there are no electronic musicians, so its hard for him to get a personal feedback, and he has limited resources and time to test everything.
If you are up to it, you should definitely get in touch with him and get into beta testing his stuff. I know he would appreciate it.
From what I know, he's developing some great stuff and he has great ideas, but its a one man operation. That's hard.
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Re: Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

Post by musikmachine » Sat May 09, 2015 2:05 pm

mikb wrote:
Kristijonas wrote:These apps needs wi-fi to communicate. Is it possible to use them in places without any wi-fi router?
You don't need a router to have a wifi network. If you have a Mac you create a new network in the airport menu and then you connect to this with the IOS unit. I'm sure Windows can create ad-hoc networks too.
Just a heads up but i had issues creating an ad hoc network on Windows 8, it's hidden and you have to run some commands prompt stuff to enable but for some reason i couldn't even thought it worked on 7.

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Re: Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

Post by phaded » Sat May 09, 2015 2:28 pm

methyl wrote:
phaded wrote:My experience with LK has not been especially stellar. Used to sell the products as Livkontrol, which was buggy as sh*t and never worked for me. Now renbranded and it still sounds like its buggy as hell, although the interface and functionality is improved. I'm not keen on paying for a product while its essentially a ongoing beta.

Highly reccomend the Lemur/ Pull / Touchable 3 combo. Extra points for having 2 iPads. Even more points if you add more touchscreens as well as bio-hacking a couple of cyborg-arms onto your frame to boot. Can attest to the stability & improvements in workflow with the above mentioned. Mature products and rock solid.
I know the Imaginando owner personally. He's a very talented developer and he comes from a high-end technology development sector, so I don't think the problem is his skills on code but more related to the struggle in getting beta testers and feedback from them. Imaginando is based on a city where practically there are no electronic musicians, so its hard for him to get a personal feedback, and he has limited resources and time to test everything.
If you are up to it, you should definitely get in touch with him and get into beta testing his stuff. I know he would appreciate it.
From what I know, he's developing some great stuff and he has great ideas, but its a one man operation. That's hard.
I can appreciate this, only counter I'll say is that I've seen a pretty strong marketing push even from the Livkontrol days that would lead one to belive its a fully mature product, or in the least useable enough to justify retail sale. Should say I'm not here to sling mud, but to share experiences as I've tested and use many of the mentioned products in this thread. Not ruling out LK being a proper offering at some stage, it just doesn't seem to be there yet... Just my .02

Has the dev sought out beta testers from this forum, KVR, Gearslutz or the like? Sure the would be a pool of users that would be willing to put it through its paces somewhere in there I reckon. That being said I may drop him an email as suggested, just pretty well set with 2 iPads for Touchable/Pull and an Apc40 :-)

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Re: Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

Post by methyl » Sat May 09, 2015 2:35 pm

phaded wrote:
methyl wrote:
phaded wrote:My experience with LK has not been especially stellar. Used to sell the products as Livkontrol, which was buggy as sh*t and never worked for me. Now renbranded and it still sounds like its buggy as hell, although the interface and functionality is improved. I'm not keen on paying for a product while its essentially a ongoing beta.

Highly reccomend the Lemur/ Pull / Touchable 3 combo. Extra points for having 2 iPads. Even more points if you add more touchscreens as well as bio-hacking a couple of cyborg-arms onto your frame to boot. Can attest to the stability & improvements in workflow with the above mentioned. Mature products and rock solid.
I know the Imaginando owner personally. He's a very talented developer and he comes from a high-end technology development sector, so I don't think the problem is his skills on code but more related to the struggle in getting beta testers and feedback from them. Imaginando is based on a city where practically there are no electronic musicians, so its hard for him to get a personal feedback, and he has limited resources and time to test everything.
If you are up to it, you should definitely get in touch with him and get into beta testing his stuff. I know he would appreciate it.
From what I know, he's developing some great stuff and he has great ideas, but its a one man operation. That's hard.
I can appreciate this, only counter I'll say is that I've seen a pretty strong marketing push even from the Livkontrol days that would lead one to belive its a fully mature product, or in the least useable enough to justify retail sale. Should say I'm not here to sling mud, but to share experiences as I've tested and use many of the mentioned products in this thread. Not ruling out LK being a proper offering at some stage, it just doesn't seem to be there yet... Just my .02

Has the dev sought out beta testers from this forum, KVR, Gearslutz or the like? Sure the would be a pool of users that would be willing to put it through its paces somewhere in there I reckon. That being said I may drop him an email as suggested, just pretty well set with 2 iPads for Touchable/Pull and an Apc40 :-)
I think the stability really depends on the setup and such. I've seen people using LK without a problem, while others face the exact opposite, but the same happens with people I know that complain that Live is this and that, while I have no problem at all with the software.
Getting beta testers from this forum is really a great idea, I'll pass it to the dev.
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Re: Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

Post by musikmachine » Sat May 09, 2015 2:46 pm

I'd be up for that. :)

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Re: Can Livkontrol or TouchAble run without wi-fi network?

Post by musikmachine » Sat May 09, 2015 2:47 pm

Double post.

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