Transposing .wav files (w/ Simpler and or Sampler)

[yur2die4]

Don't use Beat mode.

Warping is automatically being used if you turn on the 'Warp' button, there will always be at least one marker, and the warping is what makes your clip sync to whatever Live is playing.

Beats mode is not ideal for bass tones, it will chop them up and make them garbled. You should choose different ones and listen to how they sound when transposed.

After you do all that, you can either create a clip of each pitched tone and render it and throw it into a drum rack or sampler, piece by piece, or use it as a clip or something.... I'm probably getting ahead of myself here.

[ObiKaNobi]

After you do all that, you can either create a clip of each pitched tone and render it and throw it into a drum rack or sampler, piece by piece, or use it as a clip or something.... I'm probably getting ahead of myself here.

Not at all. This is what I'm trying to get done but I'm having such a stupid time transposing the clips in the first place.

Using the key mapping feature, I can transpose it, in a sense, but to play the transposed note as oppose to the original I have to press the note on my midi controller, but since my midi controller is now mapped to the clip itself, it triggers it. Along with a random basic piano sound...which I have no idea where it's coming from, I only have two channels open...one for my kick, the other for my bass.

Also, for what it's worth, I'm doing all this on a PC. Windows 7 to be precise.

[yur2die4]

Try this, it won't solve everything, but it is handy to be aware of:

Set quantization of clip to quarter or eighth note, turn on Legato. Then 'play' the clip with keyboard.

As for the pitched noise, that's still a mystery. Could be many things

[ObiKaNobi]

Yeah, so...I still can't find a solution to this problem and it's reeeeally irritating me now because this is a retardly simple problem that should not be an issue with Ableton.

Every method I try is not coming out as I want it to.

Using Transpose Clip doesn't make it sound half as good as I want it to, so that is out of the question.

All methods listed here have not worked either.

Every other thing I try, changes the speed of the clip which is something that...i don't even know why Ableton can't get around this issue.

All I want to do is take an audio clip, and transpose it up and down with no changes to speed, or audio quality. So far every method that does not change the speed, changes the quality, either the low end sounds too muddy or the frequencies seem to "spread out", changing the overall sound, which in the end makes it sound like crap when all the notes are put together.

Please somebody help me with this. It's pissing me off so badly that this is an issue. I'm about to start looking into other DAW's to see if this is part of every audio program.

If I need to warp each clip before transposing it, then I'm gonna have an issue too cause that, to me, is a step that is gonna end up taking way more time than it should.

Seriously Ableton, why is this so difficult to figure out on my own? This should not be an obstacle! It's halting my creative process in it's tracks (No pun intended), it's holding me back from finishing tracks.

[chapelier fou]

All I want to do is take an audio clip, and transpose it up and down with no changes to speed, or audio quality. So far every method that does not change the speed, changes the quality, either the low end sounds too muddy or the frequencies seem to "spread out", changing the overall sound, which in the end makes it sound like crap when all the notes are put together.

No offense, but you're obviously not a programmer and not a physician. If you know a bit the physics of sound, you'll realize that what you want is not that easy to do.

[ObiKaNobi]

All I want to do is take an audio clip, and transpose it up and down with no changes to speed, or audio quality. So far every method that does not change the speed, changes the quality, either the low end sounds too muddy or the frequencies seem to "spread out", changing the overall sound, which in the end makes it sound like crap when all the notes are put together.

No offense, but you're obviously not a programmer and not a physician. If you know a bit the physics of sound, you'll realize that what you want is not that easy to do.

Yeah, and what makes it not easy to do?

Changing the pitch of an audio sample, without affecting quality or speed shouldn't be this complicated. I shouldn't have to be a programmer to understand that this function or rather feature is essential to producing quickly and getting ideas out fluently. What's the point of a Sampler if you can't pitch it up or down without affecting it so drastically?

When I use plug in's, such as Nexus, I can take a sound and put it into a midi channel, transposing it simply by playing notes on my midi controller. Put a wav file into Sampler to use as midi and it doesn't work anywhere near as fluently as the former.

[chapelier fou]

Ok...to keep it simple :
changing the pitch of a sound is not just shifting the frequencies. Each harmonic of the sound has to be shifted by a different amount since they're spread up in a logarithmic way. That makes a lot to compute. And then detect the transients, and do the time-stretching.
i know it seems simple but in 2013 real-time pitch shifting is not 'that' easy.

a quick overview if you are interested : http://my.fit.edu/~vkepuska/ece3551/The ... erview.pdf

[yur2die4]

Nexus isn't being used to pristinely transpose any audio sample a person throws at it.

This may indeed be a creative hurdle, but it exists for everyone. You can try some other samplers, or just work around it. Limitations can either be a roadblock in creativity, or inspire one to push things in unique ways.

[chapelier fou]

I'd add that 15 years ago when i started to make music on computers it barely didn't exist. Or maybe Acid was doing this. And all the Akai and e-mu samplers were unable to do time-stretching. They do now, but it's still really bad.

[sinsanis]

Is anyone still having this problem? Because I am lol. Help, please.