Re-join audioclips

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Da hand
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Re: Re-join audioclips

Post by Da hand » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:10 pm

battiman wrote:So, I'll try and explain...

Here's screenshot of an audio file I have cut up. The higlighted part is an edit I want to keep. To the left there's another edit I want to remove.

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If I drag the end of the unwanted edit I have to meet the other edit exactly. Otherwise I end up with something like this:

Image

If all the edits are done by the grid, I am fine. But if I'm not, then I have a problem. I am amazed that it is not possible to simply remove the splits. Also, I am suprised that no one else seems to think that this is a problem. How would you heal the audio file and remove the unwanted edits?
Sorry but the images are not available for viewing.... but from what I understand...

If you take a clip and split it into pieces then you can "heal" the cuts by extending the end of one clip onto the next clip. For example

Start with one clip...

|<----------------ClipA--------------->|

split into three pieces...

|<--CLipA1-->|<--CLipA2-->|<--CLipA3-->|

Now if you want to "heal" the cut between ClipA2 and CLipA3 to make those parts into just CLipA2 then simply drag the end of CLipA2 over ClipA3.

|<--CLipA1-->|<--CLipA2--------------->|

If you have gaps between the splits or some particular edits, then obviously you are not attempting to heal anything, but actually trying to make a completely new clip - which is where consolidation comes in.

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Re: Re-join audioclips

Post by fishmonkey » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:37 pm

as mentioned earlier in the thread, the 'healing' only works if you drag the end of one of clips exactly to the far end of its neighbour.

this is workable (but still annoying) if you only work with "snap to grid" turned on. if you have split the clip without using the grid, then it is a real PITA...

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Re: Re-join audioclips

Post by Da hand » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:35 am

fishmonkey wrote:as mentioned earlier in the thread, the 'healing' only works if you drag the end of one of clips exactly to the far end of its neighbour.

this is workable (but still annoying) if you only work with "snap to grid" turned on. if you have split the clip without using the grid, then it is a real PITA...
Thank you for explaining! Ok now I understand, and I thought initially, yes true that can be a problem of course! ... but actually there is no problem if you split the clip without the grid initially. I just tested it.

I had the grid set to "OFF" in the arrangement timeline (with the 'snap to grid" and "fixed grid" off) . I took a sound and placed it into the timeline (thus creating a clip) without regard for where I placed it (as there was no grid) and split it into three pieces like in my previous example - with the splits placed randomly in the clip (again as there was no grid to snap to).

|<--CLipA1-->|<--CLipA2-->|<--CLipA3-->|

Important: If you leave the grid to OFF from this point onward, snapping will not work.

So then I turned the grid "ON" to whatever amount, fixed or adaptive, any size, doesn't matter, as long as it's not OFF. Although probably choosing a big number like 1 bar or more is best as it will then have less snap points to snap to. I chose 2 bars to be sure. This also turned on "snap to grid" in the options.

Now if I drag the end of ClipA1 towards the end of ClipA2 it will snap to the grid along the way (again why a 1 bar or more grid is good to give less snap points along the way), yes, but also if I keep dragging it will snap to the end of ClipA2 as well - no matter where the position of the end of ClipA2 is or if ClipA2 ends on the actual grid or not. Same thing if I drag it to the end of ClipA3.

In fact, "snap to grid" snaps things not only to the grid, but also to each other - like snapping a clip to a clip or snapping things to a timeline marker. So while the name suggests snapping to grid only, it actually snaps to other things as well - you just have to have the grid turned on for that action to happen.

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Re: Re-join audioclips

Post by fishmonkey » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:47 am

yeah, you are right, so at least there is a workaround.

it still would be handy to be able to select a number of clips and then hit a hotkey to heal the splits though, rather than having to drag things around.

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Re: Re-join audioclips

Post by Da hand » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:13 pm

Yes I agree that would be nice!

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