Did you do this or are these instructions?re:dream wrote:(1) make a sound and record it.
(2) duplicate it.
(3) phase reverse the second one. Sound cancels out perfectly.
(4) slap spectrum analyser on one
Sound still cancels percectly.
Therefore spectrum has no effect on the audio.
Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
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I did this. I also invented a new spelling for 'perfectly' 
Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
you mean, that's not a technical term for the undetected defected effect affect on the audio signal?
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This science stuff is dangerous. Burn him!re:dream wrote:(1) make a sound and record it.
(2) duplicate it.
(3) phase reverse the second one. Sound cancels out perfectly.
(4) slap spectrum analyser on one
Sound still cancels percectly.
Therefore spectrum has no effect on the audio.
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Rumor has it if you stack 13 Spectrum Analyzers parallel in an audio rack the sample rate goes up to 4,320k which is the frequency that opens the portal to Hell. One of Peter Gabriels engineers was experimenting with this in the early 90's and apparently he would have epileptic fits if he didn't have angora underwear on.
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Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
Alright, I wanted to get real scientific, so I used a 4-second recording of white noise. I duplicated the first track and used Utility to set them both to opposite phases. I grouped the tracks and confirmed that while the two white noise tracks were at 0.0 db, the summed group track was completely silent. I then added each of the following spectrum analyzers, VU meters, and analysis tools to one of the white noise tracks:
In every case, the null signal created by the two phase inverted audio waves remained null. I couldn't detect even the slightest ripple when any of these plugins were added to one side of the summed signal.
The conclusion I'm left with is that the sound I was hearing was a slight "pop" caused when I would cut and paste one of these plugins into another location. Rather than have numerous instances all over my project, I usually only have one that I move around wherever I need it.
So there you have it! The ones I tested *are* transparent.
- Ableton Live Spectrum (native plugin)
Voxengo AnSpec
Voxengo SPAN
T-RackS CS Metering
Klanghelm VUMT
brainworx bx_control (GUI folded so that just meters display)
Vengeance Sound VPS Scope
Flux:: Stereo Tool V3
In every case, the null signal created by the two phase inverted audio waves remained null. I couldn't detect even the slightest ripple when any of these plugins were added to one side of the summed signal.
The conclusion I'm left with is that the sound I was hearing was a slight "pop" caused when I would cut and paste one of these plugins into another location. Rather than have numerous instances all over my project, I usually only have one that I move around wherever I need it.
So there you have it! The ones I tested *are* transparent.
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Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
completely percect!
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Pffft! All that proves is that Utility is obviously skewing the results!
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How bizarre...Spectrum has a built in limiter

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Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
Ah, you got me. It is a portmanteau word from when the perfection is only a perception.H20nly wrote:you mean, that's not a technical term for the undetected defected effect affect on the audio signal?
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re:dream turned me into a newt!.......I got better!cskracer wrote:This science stuff is dangerous. Burn him!re:dream wrote:(1) make a sound and record it.
(2) duplicate it.
(3) phase reverse the second one. Sound cancels out perfectly.
(4) slap spectrum analyser on one
Sound still cancels percectly.
Therefore spectrum has no effect on the audio.
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Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
Nope, of course not. It's just random babbling with no actual source. Of course, the same poster has also included quantum mechanics as possibly changing bitwise reads as well as suggesting that simulated gain (whatever that is) would somehow improve spectrum resolutionJoel W-J wrote:How bizarre...Spectrum has a built in limiter![]()
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Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
Schrodingers frequency, bro. It's like, there, but it isn't.
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Re: Difference with spectrum analyzer on or off?
this thread is delirious
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there are 8 letters in the word spectrum
there are 8 letters in the word analyzer
8 + 8 = 16
1 and 6 is 7
a triangle has 3 sides just as there are 3 letters in the word off
7 + 3 = 10
there are 10 letters in the word Illuminati
Conclusion: The Illuminati will stop at nothing to keep the spectrum analyzer off
there are 8 letters in the word analyzer
8 + 8 = 16
1 and 6 is 7
a triangle has 3 sides just as there are 3 letters in the word off
7 + 3 = 10
there are 10 letters in the word Illuminati
Conclusion: The Illuminati will stop at nothing to keep the spectrum analyzer off

