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Re: sound card?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:39 pm
by H20nly
kitekrazy wrote:Onboard sound latencies for Mac are far superior to Windows.
not to get all technical here... but you're comparing hardware (Mac) to an OS (Windows).

the latencies on a Windows based PC will vary widely depending on the underlying hardware.

Re: sound card?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:43 pm
by login
But it is true that given the same hardware native audio drivers in OSX are superior to WDM in Windows, but once you add ASIO win is as good and sometí es even better.

Re: sound card?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:31 pm
by jlgrimes
login wrote:But it is true that given the same hardware native audio drivers in OSX are superior to WDM in Windows, but once you add ASIO win is as good and sometí es even better.

Using the free ASIO4ALL driver turns most built-in sound cards to low latency ASIO cards. I haven't really compared PC vs Mac but I think the low latency performance is similar enough to not be a problem.

The main thing is if ASIO4ALL won't work for the built-in sound card. That would be a bummer but so far I haven't experienced it.

Re: sound card?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:10 pm
by login
jlgrimes wrote:
login wrote:But it is true that given the same hardware native audio drivers in OSX are superior to WDM in Windows, but once you add ASIO win is as good and sometí es even better.

Using the free ASIO4ALL driver turns most built-in sound cards to low latency ASIO cards.
Kind of, ASIO4ALL simply doesn't compare to the low latency and performance dedicated ASIO drivers achieve. it's simply not the same for a long shot. For me ASIO4ALL is really just "better than nothing" driver, but in no way enough or optimal.

I wish some manufacturer (RME for example) made a very small soundcard, like just an USB driver with a single stereo jack output with proper drivers to avoid having to use bigger sound cards.

Re: sound card?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:06 pm
by H20nly
login wrote: For me ASIO4ALL is really just "better than nothing" driver
agreed.

i'm not knocking it, but i'm not going to prop it up either. it's more of a relic from a time when ASIO was new to Windows... so it made things possible that previously weren't and floated through the years on the success of that feat.