chain selector and device on/off

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
siliconarc
Posts: 2871
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:27 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by siliconarc » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:25 am

TomViolenz wrote:
scheffkoch wrote:...just out of curiosity: does the "stacking" of different instruments inside a rack have a (positive) effect on the cpu consumption of the set?...versus having e.g. 5 instruments on 5 tracks...
thanks
b
Assuming you also turn these instruments off/on it comes down to mostly an organisational advantage with the added convenience that you can switch between them with a macro.
it's worth keeping in mind that Live spreads the load over the cpu's cores, where each track is processed on a separate core.
so if you have 4 instruments in a rack on one track, it will be less efficient than having those 4 instruments on their own tracks.

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:50 am

...yes, but only if all of these instruments are actually switched on...if only one of the four is switched on then there shouldn't be any difference, right?...
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2


siliconarc
Posts: 2871
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:27 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by siliconarc » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:35 am

yea but... but... it's worth bearing in mind :oops:
should've read before butting in sorry!

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:40 pm

hi again,
i'm playing around with these instrument racks and can't find a way to have the selected instrument be in "focus" so that i can easily use this instrument's macros with my push…is there any way at all?…
b
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

Pitch Black
Posts: 6722
Joined: Sat Dec 21, 2002 2:18 am
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by Pitch Black » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:07 am

scheffkoch wrote:hi again,
i'm playing around with these instrument racks and can't find a way to have the selected instrument be in "focus" so that i can easily use this instrument's macros with my push…is there any way at all?…
b
Turn the Auto Select button on (the little arrow pointing to the right, below the words "Instrument Rack".
Now if you select any instrument in any chain (so that it has the Blue Hand) when you select any of the other chains using the chain selector, the Blue Hand will stay active on the currently selected (active) instrument.
See the pics below, all I did was move the chain selector and the currently selected chain/instrument stays in focus - the Blue Hand jumps from Operator to Electric.

Image

Image

I don't have Push, but this is how it works with other MIDI controllers. Does that work for you?

HTH
MBP M1Max | Sonoma 14.7 | Live 12.1 | Babyface Pro FS | Push 3T | clump of controllers
Soundcloud
Ableton Certified Trainer

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:49 am

...thanks for your reply!!!...i'll give it a try tonight...
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

Ubik
Posts: 259
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:43 am
Location: Brussels

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by Ubik » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:11 pm

It works with Push

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:14 pm

...ok...i have a strange behaviour/bug here:

i've set up everything like you suggested and it works flawless (meaning i can switch to the different instruments and they turn on when selected) when moving the macro knob with my mouse/macbook's touchpad BUT
when i turn macro1 on my push only the instrument on position "0" turns on, all other instruments stay turned off when i select them via push...can someone confirm this?...what could be the problem?...

best
b
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:25 pm

...i just tested it with macro1 midi-mapped to my nanokontrol and it works!...so it seems the problem is push related...
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:13 pm

...strange...when i select a range, e.g. 5-10 for an instrument rack with the on-range also set to 5-10, dialing to 5 with my push selects the instrument rack in off-status, from 6-10 it's on...
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:30 pm

...touchable shows same behaviour like push...
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

Ubik
Posts: 259
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:43 am
Location: Brussels

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by Ubik » Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:13 pm

Works here with push... Can you upload your liveset ?

scheffkoch
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by scheffkoch » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:54 pm

...i don't know how to upload stuff, so no unfortunately...
...does it work for you when every instrument is one step in the chain selector or only when you have e.g 5 steps for one instrument?...do you stack "plain" instruments or instrument racks?...this is strange indeed...
when i have one instrument rack from 5 to 9 and another one from 10 to 14, choosing 5 or 10 selects the instrument rack in status "off", the rest (6-9 and 11-14) in status "on"...i thought this is maybe by design (?)...0-4 is always "on" though...
macbook pro m1pro, macos monterey, rme multiface via sonnet echo express se I, push 2, faderfox mx12, xone:k2

Ubik
Posts: 259
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:43 am
Location: Brussels

Re: chain selector and device on/off

Post by Ubik » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:10 pm

...does it work for you when every instrument is one step in the chain selector or only when you have e.g 5 steps for one instrument?...do you stack "plain" instruments or instrument racks?...this is strange indeed...
No, you have to cover the whole range to make it work : e.g. Instrument 1 : 0 to 45, instrument 2: 46 to 90 and instrument 3: 91 to 127. I have both instruments and instruments racks.
The problem with this is that you'll have to remember the steps. To make it easier I modified the multimapper m4l device and named the steps on a macro knob (mapped to the chain selector macro) so it displays the instruments names on push.

Post Reply