Push 2 display lag when drumming in Drum Rack

RDiiO · Post by **RDiiO** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:20 am

fobulousguy wrote:That reply actually makes it seem like it's not going to be fixed.

Yeah that's what I got from it too but I did send the link of this topic to several developers I follow on twitter to make sure they were aware of it and plan on putting a video out on youtube, the more people that raise attention to it probably the better. I just find that $800 controller shouldn't have any faults on one of it's main features which is the display i'm not buying "the slight delay ensures smoother and consistent performance" sounds and looks like a bug to me if doesn't do it in the simpler mode but does it only in the drumrack mode then that would suggest it's something they need to look into.

I'm going to stay on them about it any other feedback I get I'll definitely pass it along

login · Post by **login** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:33 am

I can understand the "problem" and the solution but I feel it is a little bit too long.

scheffkoch · Post by **scheffkoch** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:16 am

...if they did it like this to reduce cpu consumption then there's no need to change that...the price of the controller is not relevant in this regard...

RDiiO · Post by **RDiiO** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:40 pm

scheffkoch wrote:...if they did it like this to reduce cpu consumption then there's no need to change that...the price of the controller is not relevant in this regard...

the visual feedback should be consistent across the different modes, if this was something that was happening in the simpler mode then it would be understandable but it's no reason why one is fine and the other the screen lags and flickers off and on if you drum at a faster pace. at $800 your paying for a high quality controller with a big selling point on visual feedback, i'm not buying that they designed it like that on purpose to reduce cpu consumption, that just sound like a automated response until we can look into this further.

scheffkoch · Post by **scheffkoch** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:06 pm

...as i said it's not a controller related "problem" so it would also exist when push would cost $100...so you say you're finger drumming at a fast pace and also looking at the pads' waveform to do what...????...in my understanding a controller reduces the need to look at the screen to get a more "instrument" feeling of a software...so why would you want to see a waveform????...

jobinho · Post by **jobinho** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:06 pm

scheffkoch wrote:...as i said it's not a controller related "problem" so it would also exist when push would cost $100...so you say you're finger drumming at a fast pace and also looking at the pads' waveform to do what...????...in my understanding a controller reduces the need to look at the screen to get a more "instrument" feeling of a software...so why would you want to see a waveform????...

There's no excuse here. It sounds like the power / cpu transfer to Push's screen isn't sufficient enough to provide accurate visual feedback. If you have a screen like this it may as well work and not lag. This looks highly off putting and is why I wont buy a Push 2 unless fixed.

RDiiO · Post by **RDiiO** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:08 pm

scheffkoch wrote:...as i said it's not a controller related "problem" so it would also exist when push would cost $100...so you say you're finger drumming at a fast pace and also looking at the pads' waveform to do what...????...in my understanding a controller reduces the need to look at the screen to get a more "instrument" feeling of a software...so why would you want to see a waveform????...

a controller like this reduces having to look your computer screen it doesn't reduce you having to look screen on the controller, the point is simple the screen on this controller is a main visual area and the drum rack mode is one of the main modes if the feedback of what your playing is delayed and the screen is flickering off and on and isn't accurately showing what your playing thats an issue of consistency among the different modes when you see the visual waveforms in the simpler and drum rack modes....instrument feeling of a software doesn't mean you don't look at the screen on these type of pad controllers visual feedback is there for many reasons and a big reason why people purchased this version of push don't think people purchased this not to look at the waveforms and it's no excuse for delayed lagging feedback with the screen on a device like this

RDiiO · Post by **RDiiO** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:15 pm

jobinho wrote:
scheffkoch wrote:...as i said it's not a controller related "problem" so it would also exist when push would cost $100...so you say you're finger drumming at a fast pace and also looking at the pads' waveform to do what...????...in my understanding a controller reduces the need to look at the screen to get a more "instrument" feeling of a software...so why would you want to see a waveform????...
There's no excuse here. It sounds like the power / cpu transfer to Push's screen isn't sufficient enough to provide accurate visual feedback. If you have a screen like this it may as well work and not lag. This looks highly off putting and is why I wont buy a Push 2 unless fixed.

I think you may be on to something here with the power/cpu transfer it's weird because it's only in the drum rack mode, playing back in the simple mode everything works fine. I think something like this is going to prevent people from purchasing and with that I'm sure there aware of it definitely something that needs to be fixed it's the perfect controller outside of this one issue.

scheffkoch · Post by **scheffkoch** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:19 pm

...you mean you want accurate visual feedback of something that you don't see (because you're playing) just to have....accurate.visual.feedback...?...interesting approach...if it saves cpu then it's ok imo...

scheffkoch · Post by **scheffkoch** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:32 pm

...you gotta watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMGZMw_DO-0 ...he's happy without any visual feedback on the controller at all!...

RDiiO · Post by **RDiiO** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:07 pm

scheffkoch wrote:...you mean you want accurate visual feedback of something that you don't see (because you're playing) just to have....accurate.visual.feedback...?...interesting approach...if it saves cpu then it's ok imo...

sorry i'm done debating on why a lagging and flickering display is an issue doesn't matter what my needs are or how i'm using it doesn't take away from the issue that this discussion was started about people use the device many different ways and judging from the comments this isn't a isolated issue so if your not experiencing the issue and you don't have a push 2 and want to give some feedback to the development team who may see this then silence.....save your youtube links

scheffkoch · Post by **scheffkoch** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:28 pm

...your issue is maybe a non-issue...just because you call it an issue doesn't mean it is one...you said that this "issue" will stop someone from buying push so i recommend to watch the video...and i already gave feedback: if this behaviour reduces cpu consumption then it's good for me...

RDiiO · Post by **RDiiO** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:10 pm

scheffkoch wrote:...your issue is maybe a non-issue...just because you call it an issue doesn't mean it is one...you said that this "issue" will stop someone from buying push so i recommend to watch the video...and i already gave feedback: if this behaviour reduces cpu consumption then it's good for me...

nothing to debate and it's not a "my" issue I didn't create the discussion addressing it I noticed a problem and came across others who were experiencing the same thing like I said if it's not an issue for you then silence and so you know the difference the video you referred to was someone playing on a Push v1 running 9.5 not a Push v2

login · Post by **login** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:31 pm

If the screen didn't lag then there would be people complaining about too much CPU use when finger drumming...

Between the two options I think CPU use is the priority, it really matters.

To me it is just a little bit long, could be shorter without getting in to the problem.

scheffkoch · Post by **scheffkoch** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:51 pm

@RDiiO: it seems you don't get my point and it's obvious you don't want to get it since you don't read my comments…and: you are definitely not in the position to tell someone to be silent…
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