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sporkles wrote:Well, the obvious advantage of auditioning in a Live rack is that you can hear the samples in context, and you can constantly cycle through the samples.

That. I want to be able to change it on the fly as its playing which also opens the door to happy accidents. I want to do the same with other percussion type sounds too. I don’t think you’re going to be able to find the right or interesting hi hat based on a single click audition the way you would playing in the pattern.

beats me wrote:Saw a vid where they dropped a bunch of samples into an instrument rack and then dropped that rack onto a drum rack cell. Seems like the same end result where they used a macro to flip through the chains instead of notes in Sampler. Not sure how old the vid is so it might be a dated option, but does anybody know what advantages or disadvantages that method might have?

This seems like a better method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=839Ug8q ... gDsemElqGh

It puts each sample in a Simpler and when you have the auto select on it does display the correct waveform in Simpler when you hit a key, no need to try to figure which note in Sampler it's on. The other added benefit is when you create the instrument racks you can play each sound melodically like you can in Maschine and save the Instrument Rack before you drag it into a Drum Rack cell in case you want to do something like use the kick samples from one type library and the snares from another type library.

Only real setup hitch I ran into like shown in the video is you still have to manually drag the chain range for each sample. Right click distribute range evenly doesn't seem to really do anything.

sporkles wrote:

H20nly wrote:Random pic, funny as it may be

True; one really doesn't. What one actually does is start playback loop, guesstimate the approximate area of the zone one is looking for and then skip through zones until the waveform playhead in Sampler starts moving.

gawdammit!!

Ok I'm pretty new to all this so I might be misunderstanding,
but I put a midi pitch device in front of a drum rack loaded with samples and just turn that one knob to select a different sample. Would that work for you?

That may work with the bulk drop into a Sampler method, but does the pitch cover 128 notes? Also using pitch is redundant if you are using a macro.

But as stated above I like the method of dumping them into an instrument rack which puts them in a Simpler and then just switch through the chain selector.

Just started messing with short vocal samples in Simplers and geez what a huge difference the warp type makes. It seems like it’s just a matter of taste with the sample you are messing with at the time or even just the track you are working on. Didn’t find a type that just works for all of them and I guess it depends on if you are looking for that pitched up EDM sound or something more natural.

sporkles wrote:Well, the obvious advantage of auditioning in a Live rack is that you can hear the samples in context, and you can constantly cycle through the samples.

H20nly wrote:Random pic, funny as it may be

True; one really doesn't. What one actually does is start playback loop, guesstimate the approximate area of the zone one is looking for and then skip through zones until the waveform playhead in Sampler starts moving.

yes, or you can click auto-select, this way only the samples that are playing back will be highlighted

beats me wrote:
This seems like a better method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=839Ug8q ... gDsemElqGh

It puts each sample in a Simpler and when you have the auto select on it does display the correct waveform in Simpler when you hit a key, no need to try to figure which note in Sampler it's on. The other added benefit is when you create the instrument racks you can play each sound melodically like you can in Maschine and save the Instrument Rack before you drag it into a Drum Rack cell in case you want to do something like use the kick samples from one type library and the snares from another type library.

Only real setup hitch I ran into like shown in the video is you still have to manually drag the chain range for each sample. Right click distribute range evenly doesn't seem to really do anything.

I suppose it solves some of the problems, but it does leave you with 128 Simplers per drum cell.

sporkles wrote:

beats me wrote:
This seems like a better method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=839Ug8q ... gDsemElqGh

It puts each sample in a Simpler and when you have the auto select on it does display the correct waveform in Simpler when you hit a key, no need to try to figure which note in Sampler it's on. The other added benefit is when you create the instrument racks you can play each sound melodically like you can in Maschine and save the Instrument Rack before you drag it into a Drum Rack cell in case you want to do something like use the kick samples from one type library and the snares from another type library.

Only real setup hitch I ran into like shown in the video is you still have to manually drag the chain range for each sample. Right click distribute range evenly doesn't seem to really do anything.

I suppose it solves some of the problems, but it does leave you with 128 Simplers per drum cell.

Is that an issue? Longer load times maybe?

I’ve made a few kits and so far haven’t come close to 128 samples per cell. I think 30 samples is the top so far.

Kind of OT here, but I don’t want to start another thread. What exactly is the blue hand supposed to do? I thought it would automap to the device in focus but so far that hasn’t happened. And even when I manually assign the 8 macros to 8 physical knobs and save the device it still doesn’t automap the next time I open the device. What gives?