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by TTOZ » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:46 am
I was demoing Live 10 and can not believe this is STILL an issue.. Will never update my live 9.
I do not understand how people tolerate this..
Obviously it was worked out long ago what the issue is in this topic, but just to reiterate, Live can not sync it's playback cursor with the visual placement of clips on the timeline if one is using a plugin with latency. Even just one plugin with large latency in an entire project, puts the WHOLE thing out of time visually. I mean there's fools on youtube saying how UAD rocks with Live and it couldn't be a worse companion cause every UAD effect has latency. It's pathetic and Bitwig just annihilates you guys in this department. I gave that software such a hard time on release as a live wannabe, but in a few short years they have come leaps and bounds further than ableton could in almost 2 decades!.. It's ridiculous at this stage to put it mildly. perfect latency comp anywhere, visually locked at all times.. i even tested stupid extreme scenarios of automating fab filter maximum latency linear phase mode EQ and it was bang on time audibly and visually. Live is a joke for any serious producer and is only useful as a composition tool or if you are willing to use ZERO latency plugins ONLY, or.. instantly bounce and flatten tracks that you use latent plugins on. I feel insulted they want 300 bucks for me to upgrade for the state it's in. Ableton are incapable of fixing this.. Move to a DAW that handles latency compensation correctly. If people keep putting up with it, Ableton will never get the message and will NEVER fix it. Move away, talk with your wallet like I am, and things might actually change. It's such a shame as it has a lot of strong points and is enjoyable to compose in. Also of course, an even better issue, LOL, the performance at 128 buffer is getting me exactly *half* the VI instances (using a standardised test) that Bitwig gets on the exact same mac. Just phenomenal how far Ableton have fallen behind. I am struggling to find any situation where Live is superior to Bitwig now.. maybe in the fact that it can natively support rex files but that's about it. Oh and rewire I guess. On the flip side there are so many things that Bitwig does better.. Better midi, better routing, the modulation, better performance, better latency compensation, better looks (subjective), better stability, better almost everything.
I am bitwig, pick me, pick me, i now hAs midi export!
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That was creating much of the playback latency also.