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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:49 pm
by dizzyj
Jesse wrote:Kid Beyond uses keystrokes to change quantization settings depending on the situation. Jesse
Would you happen to know if he also enables chanels for record via keystrokes? I was playing around with this this weekend, but the only way I could figure out how to quantize the record enable would be to assign a midi message to it, write a loop with that midi message in it, then trigger the midi loop via a keystroke. Then when the midi loop playes quantized, the record enables get swapped at the right time, but its kinda klugy

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:04 pm
by krikor
smutek wrote:
krikor wrote:...by the way have you guys ever seen Mister Lydell on stage?

Jamie Lidell Live at the Royal Festival Hall, London.

58 megs. .mov, right click and save as or watch in yer browser.
but have you seen him on stage playing 2 hours sweating the shit out of his tapesuit and burning everything down like he did at the mutek2004, i saw him several times each one is different, he sings his songs but there is always some new crazyness happening, last time he gave us some vocal chicago like house tracks, it felt just like some old casual shit!!! whoou bad!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:12 pm
by Martyn
Does anybody know what floor controller he's using? I've been after one for ages.

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:21 pm
by dizzyj
I saw kid beyond live this past memorial weekend (end of may). Didnt know what to expect, but he really blew me away. Great live performer, great music, and I couldnt imagine a better realworld demo for Live then that video

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:21 pm
by ::mic-minimal::
it looks like his quantize settings were all the same in this paticular video when he was doing the example in his kitchen, what quantize setting is that

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:29 pm
by Jesse
KB uses Bome MIDI translator, a small PC app that sends multiple keystrokes at once -- so he could say, record enable a track and change quantization at the same time. His footcontroller is a Ground COntrol. The FCB 1010 works well too, but he likes how the Ground Control fits in his suitcase. It's all in the video...

...lots more artist movies coming soon...
Jesse

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:40 pm
by dizzyj
Martyn wrote:Does anybody know what floor controller he's using? I've been after one for ages.
http://www.voodoolab.com/gcsystem.html

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:46 pm
by StompyJ
I agree his beatboxing skills are amazing, but isn't this how most of you guys use Ableton Live?

Thats precisely why I use it so much (ever since midi-enabled live4 came out).

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:09 pm
by Martyn
dizzyj wrote:
Martyn wrote:Does anybody know what floor controller he's using? I've been after one for ages.
http://www.voodoolab.com/gcsystem.html
Cheers for the link

Nice controller!

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:21 pm
by borg
edit: spent too many time watching the vids before replying... :)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:27 pm
by Machinate
krikor wrote:he is technically a killer but, i don't see the relation with the godfather of soul and ray charles on the live extracts in this demo, i would like to hear some full songs by him (anyone's got a link?), cause on the paper it sounds like what jamie lydell does, but to the ears it is a lot more conventional beatboxing thing...by the way have you guys ever seen Mister Lydell on stage? or shlomo, they are fucking killers...
There's definitely a big difference between Lidell and Chaikin/Kid Beyond - Jamie's definitely got the upper hand, technically, imnsho, but KB is obviously a lot better with his voice. If those two could have a baby, hehe... I dig JL for his messed up approach and the extravagant amount of effects, most of my "beat-box-savy" friends think he's a hack :roll:

BTW guys, check out kid beyond's version of Kashmir, that drum-sound is killerrr!!!!
http://www.biggerbread.com/hear.htm

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:30 pm
by ::mic-minimal::
hey folks sorry to be such a pain and thanks for the responses jesse, I understand that he's using bomes midi translater and I understand what that does...but if you look at the video, when he gives his example of how he does it I noticed that for that paticular example he's recording the diffeent clips in the same timing quantization, I'm just curious what setting that might be, maybe some of you can tell by the amount of timing between changes or something, if anybody knows I'd like to know and thanks

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:39 pm
by Machinate
I think it's straight one-bar - but he could be playing in double-time ;)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:54 pm
by krikor
Machinate wrote:If those two could have a baby, hehe...
then we would have to kill him or burry him very deep arhhhhhh ;-)
Machinate wrote:BTW guys, check out kid beyond's version of Kashmir, that drum-sound is killerrr!!!!
http://www.biggerbread.com/hear.htm
Crazy on the drums, he is really a killer on the drums sounds, but hum the songs are really cheezy...
have you seen shlomo, he is the shit

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:57 pm
by Chris J
Machinate wrote: BTW guys, check out kid beyond's version of Kashmir, that drum-sound is killerrr!!!!
waow yeah, that snare sound, so percussive