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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:44 pm
by mike holiday
drush wrote:
but don't be fooled by the romantic images guys. detroit is a hellhole and only getting worse.
very much the image of "throw-away" culture
but shit i didn't mean for this to be political
...ugggg...i bet my hippie-ness is showing now
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:48 pm
by tribalogical
awesome stuff... what an amazing effort by one person....
almost makes me want to organize a "musician's exodus" to buy, restore, and create a new center of music in old Detroit..... what an opportunity!
sadly, no money for such a bold endeavor....
peace,
tribalogical
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:06 pm
by drush
mike holiday wrote:drush wrote:
but don't be fooled by the romantic images guys. detroit is a hellhole and only getting worse.
very much the image of "throw-away" culture
but shit i didn't mean for this to be political
...ugggg...i bet my hippie-ness is showing now
the photos are representative of "throw-away" culture or my comments are? i assume you mean the former.
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:51 pm
by conny
Thanks for links.
I have a feeling for these things.
Maybe that's why I photo things like this:
and
// C
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:00 am
by conny
BTW, one of my favourite electro acoustic pieces is "The Pleasure of Ruins" by Gregory Whitehead.
http://mediamogul.seas.upenn.edu/pennso ... s_1987.mp3
// C
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:06 am
by mike holiday
drush wrote:the photos are representative of "throw-away" culture or my comments are? i assume you mean the former.
definatly talking about the former (ie. the city that got thrown into the trashcan)
well i guess it's flint that really got tossed away
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:50 pm
by conny
So what happened to Detroit?
Japan took over the car building?
Or US companies found it was cheaper to produce things out of the US?
// C
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:02 pm
by hoffman2k
conny wrote:So what happened to Detroit?
Japan took over the car building?
Or US companies found it was cheaper to produce things out of the US?
// C
I'm no historian. But i think the closing of the GM factory was a major blow to detroit.
I remember seeing a micheal moore documentary about it. "Roger and me".
It's worth checking out.
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:05 pm
by ishimaru
Ford's HQ is in a brand new building here in Irvine California.
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:25 pm
by mike holiday
hoffman2k wrote:conny wrote:So what happened to Detroit?
Japan took over the car building?
Or US companies found it was cheaper to produce things out of the US?
// C
I'm no historian. But i think the closing of the GM factory was a major blow to detroit.
I remember seeing a micheal moore documentary about it. "Roger and me".
It's worth checking out.
GM HQ is still in detroit in that nice hotel right next to hart plaza (where DEMF is held every year)
...it's the factories where everyone worked..
Roger & Me is about Flint, a town 45 miles (all you euro's need to get on our bassakkwards system of measurement so you know haw far a mile is) north of Detroit
what happend ... all the white people moved to the suburbs (includeing my folks)
city peak was 2 million & now it is under 1 million, while the 'burbs have 6 million...so once the people left of course they had to rebuild the factories in mexico
(okay some of the factories move to the burbs but they didn't fare as well)
my pops was in advertiseing so he didn't have to worry to much about closings of things