Quality drum hits/kits, where?

[Winterpark]

i actually have a trashy drum kit that i might try to record. It's got a nice snappy snare that could sound pretty sweet for hip-hop/dance if recorded right.

I have a Shure sm-58, and also recently ordered an Audio Technica AT 4033a capacitor mic (which is in the post).

Anyone had any experience in recording drums? Do you know how to record to give the best result?

many thanks folks

you need to mic up the whole kit ,1 mic for each toms 1 top snare 1 bottom snare (phased) ,2 overhead (panned) 1 hat .
i usually have 1 room mic 1 cupboard mic & a wall mic .
for a basic beatles kit with 2 toms 1 snare a kik 3 snares & a hat you need at least 10 mic if you want to have a good sound .
i use condensers for all the mics ,the best kik mic is for me the akg d112 ,the rest is a question of taste ,you can get a basic drum mic kit for less than a grand .

but as i always say to drummers , fuck the technique ,remember the beatles they only used 2 mics on their drums .

just to add to this... a good sounding room with a high ceiling is important also!

for a basic 4 channel drum setup try...
kick mic close
snare mic close
condenser mic above the head of the drummer
sm58 about 2 meters direct in front of the kit.

you can get some pretty good retro sounds this way, with a bit more control over the tone of kick and snare....

often the sm58 room mic, when compressed hard enough can sound wikkid on it's own!

[sweetjesus]

i actually have a trashy drum kit that i might try to record. It's got a nice snappy snare that could sound pretty sweet for hip-hop/dance if recorded right.

I have a Shure sm-58, and also recently ordered an Audio Technica AT 4033a capacitor mic (which is in the post).

Anyone had any experience in recording drums? Do you know how to record to give the best result?

many thanks folks

you need to mic up the whole kit ,1 mic for each toms 1 top snare 1 bottom snare (phased) ,2 overhead (panned) 1 hat .
i usually have 1 room mic 1 cupboard mic & a wall mic .
for a basic beatles kit with 2 toms 1 snare a kik 3 snares & a hat you need at least 10 mic if you want to have a good sound .
i use condensers for all the mics ,the best kik mic is for me the akg d112 ,the rest is a question of taste ,you can get a basic drum mic kit for less than a grand .

but as i always say to drummers , fuck the technique ,remember the beatles they only used 2 mics on their drums .

just to add to this... a good sounding room with a high ceiling is important also!

for a basic 4 channel drum setup try...
kick mic close
snare mic close
condenser mic above the head of the drummer
sm58 about 2 meters direct in front of the kit.

you can get some pretty good retro sounds this way, with a bit more control over the tone of kick and snare....

often the sm58 room mic, when compressed hard enough can sound wikkid on it's own!

don't FUCK the technique. Sir George Martin is a magician of a producer. The rooms that the beatles stuff was recorded in is a GREAT sounding room, and furthermore, they were recorded on hardware which is to this day still considered amazing.

But it's mostly still in the hands of the producer, I bet you that should anyone else have recorded those drums, they wouldn't sound nearly half as good as they do. In addition to that, the rest of the productions were obviously carefully designed to gel with the drum sound and to enhance it.

[supster]

don't FUCK the technique. Sir George Martin is a magician of a producer. The rooms that the beatles stuff was recorded in is a GREAT sounding room, and furthermore, they were recorded on hardware which is to this day still considered amazing.

But it's mostly still in the hands of the producer, I bet you that should anyone else have recorded those drums, they wouldn't sound nearly half as good as they do. In addition to that, the rest of the productions were obviously carefully designed to gel with the drum sound and to enhance it.

yes i agree that there are people out there that have gotten really awesome results recording music

i wouldnt assume that anyone in particular is worth idolizing or lifting them beyond what ordinary mortals can do, including yourself.

you have gear, you have ears, work hard at it and recognize whats good when you hear it.

george martin probably knows that alot of what he did that was attributed to magical genious, was half creativity and half accident. just like anybody else.
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[spiderprod]

don't FUCK the technique. Sir George Martin is a magician of a producer. The rooms that the beatles stuff was recorded in is a GREAT sounding room, and furthermore, they were recorded on hardware which is to this day still considered amazing.

But it's mostly still in the hands of the producer, I bet you that should anyone else have recorded those drums, they wouldn't sound nearly half as good as they do. In addition to that, the rest of the productions were obviously carefully designed to gel with the drum sound and to enhance it.

it's true there is nothing like tape compression or those vintage valve eq that can cost thousands of pounds if you want to get old of them now .


i say fuck the technique , those 20 mics drum recording technique come from the tape ages , & at the end of the recording they had to bounce the drum mix to a 2 track to save some tape space on their tape recorder .

dude ,a few month ago i had a better drum sound using some horn mics & a bit of vsts than the conventional way of recording drums .

[supster]

dude ,a few month ago i had a better drum sound using some horn mics & a bit of vsts than the conventional way of recording drums .

yes, i think there are tons of ways to do things; trying to emulate what other people have done can help, but way too many people get hung up on that to be honest

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[hacktheplanet]

I've got a CD full of vintage synth samples that I downloaded from hollowsun.com a year ago when it was free. There are a fuckload of old drum machines on there too. If you want, Paypal me like $4 (paypal fee, cost of postage, blank cd), and I'll mail one to you.