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There is too much, too much software too many labels founded by peaples who could not get a release by other labels too much of everything.
Every week hundreds new founded labels worldwide.

I.m.o
What i also notice is the fact that cuz of the mp3 music is degraded in value emotional wise.
Back in the days i bought lots of vinyl, had to work hard for it.
Now u can grab allmost everything u want for free, play it a little and skip it, then ditch it.
For me personaly the timeless tracks are from the past.

no i dont think music as such is going to be dated..the main problem is if the majority of people gets used to hear to much crap (and heres another discusion,
cuz what is crap?). actually u could also turn it around and say what about the old stuff and consider how much of it gets a relisten today bcause of the i-net. cuz u dont exactly have to "find it" in a record shop like in the old days..

djsynchro wrote:

sweetjesus wrote: If only Live would run on an abacus...

... you'd never use complex mode again!

who needs complex mode on Abacus Live!!

This is a good read about music and digital distribution:
http://www.futureofmusicbook.com/

Classic tunes remain classic whatever. Its true there is a saturation of music now... but a big tune is a big tune whatever the year!

It's true.

Stakker:Humanoid is pretty ancient now, but it still rocks.

All music has a shelf life - that's obvious

and music (all music) follows the current selling trand for the genre - sure there are the traditionalist who stick to age old formula's but music producers, listeners, etc follow the current trend of their genre of choice

More popular techno, used to be distorted 4x4 Berlin type sounds - now it's funky drummy loops (west coast style)

Good acid house is good acid house - you can drop a old Armando beat any day

Drum and Bass used to be all 90's sounding, now it's all 21st century sounding

yet again, I have no idea what I'm talking about - but my ears can tell what's hot and what's not - stick around a day or two and you'll see / hear the change


but a jam is a jam - and it's those rare classic jams that no one else has that rocks the dance floor - especially those songs your favorite DJ's like Terry and Dan play (you know you heard it before, but can't quite remember where, then bam it's something totally off the hook)

OHHHHH, dog what is that? (as they're putting it back in their record bag) they hand the record to you and tell you what it is, but you can't hear them because it's so loud - you hear something about Donald and some guy named Eddie over there. as they point at the mixer.

you spend the next 6 months in Platinum looking for a Donald and Eddie record on Warp Tools UK!


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Sometimes i think, why needing new music?
Most of today's music are just clones of some original ones from the past.

Look behind u, in the past u can find a treasure.
Millions of timeless tunes for u not yet discovered

lola wrote:Sometimes i think, why needing new music?
Most of today's music are just clones of some original ones from the past.

Hm. Too much music, too much talk...

If music was more of what happens at the moment, where people meet, a feast, an improvisation.
Covers and remixes (sorry to blend two worlds) does mostly not add to the welth of the universe, but it's OK anyway.

It's becomming a fast food market, more and more. And fastfood is often an illusion of fullfilled needs. It just soon makes us hungry again. Which drives some ecconomy but maybe no the art.

// C

I think the word "dated" is interesting...it implies that something sounds old or no longer is cool or what not. Yet when I listen to some old Led Zeppelin, it doesn't sound dated at all compared to what someone mentioned as the classic over-verbed 80s snare sound.

To answer the question in this thread, I'd say that the plethora of digital music production and distribution serves two ends:
1. More musicians being able to create music
2. More music being distrubted much easier

I think both ends create a scenario where the good stuff rises to the top much quicker. True, there's a lot of new crap out there, but now, we have a different way to judge what is good, and it's no longer the radio or fucking Kasey Kasum. As such, stuff that's really good becomes a popular download and gets talked about on forums. That becomes the new definition of "classic" or "good" and that tends to not go out of style too fast or get dated. For example, in my opinion, most of the Above and Beyond stuff of the last couple of years will probably not sound dated for a while. On the other hand, early 90s rave is sounding real cheezy, and I doubt I'll look back on it in 20 years (like I do with Zeppelin) and say that it's still cool.

Then again, there are songs out now that would never have seen the light of day without tools like Live and the Internet. Take Danger Mouse's Grey Album, or Morgan Page's Cease and Desist. Those will soon be seen as classic works of art that used a medium to break a lot of rules.

I think I'm talking aimlessly now, so I'll stop.

I dunno. I half agree and half don't.

Some music never becomes dated, or even if it does it still sounds bloody good or just has a feel that is timeless.