supa trigga alternative?

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dpmtl
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Post by dpmtl » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:25 pm

eddit wrote:
mexique1 wrote:instajungle
Unfortunately the instajungle downloads seem to be gone.

Any ideas on availability?
Try this!
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1982.html :wink:
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Post by Machinate » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:41 pm

hehe, didn't know kvr had an audio effects category called "FSU" - gotta love that.
http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... =3&rpp=100
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Post by gomi » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:58 pm

MrYellow wrote:
beat repeat would be perfect if they added a random order option
and a reverse function.
You can do all that with multiple beat repeats and running a clip thru both forwards and reversed. (bounce reversed version and re-reverse it)

Much better to control then supertrig

-Ben

mmmm good idea

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Post by scientist » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:39 pm

don't forget follow actions. it took me a couple hours how to learn, but follow actions can do some really good random chopping. you get much more control over things than with supatrigga. of course the negative is that it takes a little to set things up...duplicating clips, changing start points, etc. but in the long run its worth it.
also, never underestmate duplicating an effect in series (as others have already mentioned). 2 or 3 supatriggas in a row with different settings let you control parameters with more accuracy. that way you can give different quantize settings (1/8, 1/32, etc) and effects (slow, reverse, etc) different % chance of occuring.

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Post by Toufas » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:20 am

scientist wrote:don't forget follow actions. it took me a couple hours how to learn, but follow actions can do some really good random chopping. you get much more control over things than with supatrigga. of course the negative is that it takes a little to set things up...duplicating clips, changing start points, etc. but in the long run its worth it.
also, never underestmate duplicating an effect in series (as others have already mentioned). 2 or 3 supatriggas in a row with different settings let you control parameters with more accuracy. that way you can give different quantize settings (1/8, 1/32, etc) and effects (slow, reverse, etc) different % chance of occuring.
post an example :|

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Post by scientist » Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:11 am

http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=t ... b=tips1104

that'll get you started. the gist is to take a loop and give it certain settings in the clip view's launch section: trigger mode legato, quantize small (like 1/16), set follow actions to a small increment too (again, 1/16), and set the follow action to whatever you want (but start with *: any). then duplicate that clip several times in your track, and change the start point of each clip on grid. launch any of the clips, and live will randomly jump around from clip to clip (or whatever follow action you've set). you can then set follow action ratios to tend toward playing the original loop more often than the ones where you moved the start point. then you can reverse a clip or two, pitch em down, turn the volume all the way down on one...whatever ya want. the only catch is the smallest increment for the jump is i think 1/16, so if you want anything smaller, throw a beat repeat in with a low % chance and tighter repeat quantize.

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Post by longjohns » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:30 am

hey andy, it's ron!!!

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