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Post by jahnlay » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:11 am

You guys look like you're checking your email, maybe it's time to consider putting the computer's to the side and using a controller to launch your clips? I was having the same problem and it really doesn't look good from the crowd's point of view, now I'm trying to rid myself of that image and interact with the crowd and my midi controllers. It just seems to cut off your energy and vibe from the audience. What do you think?
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Post by forge » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:28 am

jahnlay wrote:You guys look like you're checking your email, maybe it's time to consider putting the computer's to the side and using a controller to launch your clips? I was having the same problem and it really doesn't look good from the crowd's point of view, now I'm trying to rid myself of that image and interact with the crowd and my midi controllers. It just seems to cut off your energy and vibe from the audience. What do you think?
To me personally I'm really not bothered about this whole "checking your email" syndrome. Who gives a shit??

People should be dancing and/or listening to the music not looking at the godlike superstar DJ. No matter who is playing the only time I ever want to look at them is when I'm trying to sneak a peak at their setup and how they're doing it so I really couldnt care less if they're scratching their arses, I just might like a quick look at some point from a geeky perspective and that's it!

If I know them and/or their music then I'll know by listening whether they're doing anything new with their music, but even then sometimes its about going and hearing the music you know but in a club environment through a loud system in front of an apreciative crowd, and that shouldnt be down to whether the DJ/Liver is waving his hands around or not

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Post by mrweasel » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:42 pm

Live music is all about performing man, whether you are a dj or a musician.
I hardly ever go to laptop gigs because most of them are so boring.

As far as I'm concerned, I feel like I have to give people something otherwise I might just as well play from the toilets.

But that's just my point of view

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Post by forge » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:51 pm

mrweasel wrote:Live music is all about performing man, whether you are a dj or a musician.
I hardly ever go to laptop gigs because most of them are so boring.

As far as I'm concerned, I feel like I have to give people something otherwise I might just as well play from the toilets.

But that's just my point of view
but do you get into alot of bands and more performance orientated gigs?

I'm really meaning about club type gigs where it's about the dancefloor and getting lost in the music - seriously, if i'm in a club on the dancefloor or found a spot somewhere to sit back and close my eyes and just listen to the music the last thing on my mind is what the twat in the booth is doing

totally depends on the type of gig I guess

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Post by jahnlay » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:54 pm

Yes, but by putting your computer to the left or right of you, you can maintain a connection with your audience, still keep a close eye on your machine and settings and provide a better performance. Even piano's are turned sideways on stage these days to give better performance value, e.g. Coldplay, Elton John, Billy Joel. The connection with the audience is extremely important, it warms them to you and allows them to participate with you as an entertainer. I agree that the music is first and foremost, but the audience want the music to be coming from the performer, not the machine. Just my feeling.
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Post by Q&A » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:05 pm

i dont mind having the computers in the frame of view, But...one thing I do is have my gear boosted up on the table. That keeps you from having to croutch over so far.

Rockstar'ism is a funny creature. When it is done from the right state of mind I think it is astheticaly pleasing...the problem is that when it is faked, and/or overdone it looks absolutely ridiculous and vain.

I was watching this

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=28491061

and it looks like a rock concert. I much prefer a.....more circular like atmosphere, for this type of music, where the dancing and movement of the people are almost focusing on eachother.... including the DJ, rather than the rock concert stage setup where the DJ is almost separated.

Hope I didnt go to far off topic. Great pics ...peace.

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Post by stegi » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:16 pm

how can I post my pics? :?:

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Post by jahnlay » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:36 pm

You have to host them at a site, like image shack (www.imageshack.us), then post a link here
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Post by stegi » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:37 pm


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Post by HD1 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:38 pm

stegi wrote:[img]C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\STE\Desktop\20%2003%202004%20009.jpg[/img]
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Post by forge » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:39 pm

jahnlay wrote:Yes, but by putting your computer to the left or right of you, you can maintain a connection with your audience, still keep a close eye on your machine and settings and provide a better performance. Even piano's are turned sideways on stage these days to give better performance value, e.g. Coldplay, Elton John, Billy Joel. The connection with the audience is extremely important, it warms them to you and allows them to participate with you as an entertainer. I agree that the music is first and foremost, but the audience want the music to be coming from the performer, not the machine. Just my feeling.
I guess we're talking about different things - pianos, coldplay etc are musicians you go to watch as an "audience"- the image I have in my head is entirely based on clubs and house/techno etc - so we're coming from different angles

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Post by stegi » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:39 pm

my first try wasn't good :?

ok now i know what to do :D

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Post by stegi » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:40 pm

RopeyPunter wrote:
stegi wrote:[img]C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\STE\Desktop\20%2003%202004%20009.jpg[/img]
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I'm sorry :oops:

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Post by HD1 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:41 pm

forge wrote:
jahnlay wrote:Yes, but by putting your computer to the left or right of you, you can maintain a connection with your audience, still keep a close eye on your machine and settings and provide a better performance. Even piano's are turned sideways on stage these days to give better performance value, e.g. Coldplay, Elton John, Billy Joel. The connection with the audience is extremely important, it warms them to you and allows them to participate with you as an entertainer. I agree that the music is first and foremost, but the audience want the music to be coming from the performer, not the machine. Just my feeling.
I guess we're talking about different things - pianos, coldplay etc are musicians you go to watch as an "audience"- the image I have in my head is entirely based on clubs and house/techno etc - so we're coming from different angles
ehhh....I dunno, any artist who's just skulking behind his laptop isnt doing much...they should at least mix the levels or something

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Post by HD1 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:42 pm

stegi wrote:
RopeyPunter wrote:
stegi wrote:[img]C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\STE\Desktop\20%2003%202004%20009.jpg[/img]
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I'm sorry :oops:
its ok, to show you how much I forgive you I want you to have sex with my mother.

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