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Post by pulsoc » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:52 pm

Try a klonopine - less sloppy than booze and less wiggy than pot.

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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:52 pm

One word:
Redundancy


Have back-up cables for cables you rely on. Have more than one plan for how you're going to hook into the sound system. Go to the club and scope out the sound system. Talk to the sound dude who will be there when you do your set. Tell him what you've got and what you're going to do.

When you practice don't think to yourself, 'okay, this is what it's going to sound like at the club'. It won't sound like that. It'll be weird sounding but you can adapt.

Give yourself a little room with your levels. The thing that caught me most off gaurd when I played my own material the first time was how drastically different some of the levels were of my tracks in my Live set. I'd be playing and I'd trigger a scene, then I'd trigger the next scene and it'd be twice as loud as the last scene, even though the million times I'd done that at home it always sounded even.

Walk in like you own the place.

Have fun!

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Post by netchaiev » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:58 am

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Post by lunabass » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:05 am

It can be really dark up on stage and hard to see. I'd be practising in minimal lighting to ensure that you can see your controller and keyboard.

Spare cables are a must, I take combinations of various cables as you never know what inputs you will be faced with. Cable adapters can get you out of trouble. I always try to make balanced connections where possible (XLR, TRS). Stage lighting can work wonders on unbalanced connections. I even take a spare USB cable.

I dont use a mouse, too easy to click on something by accident.

Last but not least, I always take my trusty ironing board...they make great stands for your gear :lol:
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Post by sadmac » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:24 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:One word:
Redundancy


Have back-up cables for cables you rely on. Have more than one plan for how you're going to hook into the sound system. Go to the club and scope out the sound system. Talk to the sound dude who will be there when you do your set. Tell him what you've got and what you're going to do.

When you practice don't think to yourself, 'okay, this is what it's going to sound like at the club'. It won't sound like that. It'll be weird sounding but you can adapt.

Give yourself a little room with your levels. The thing that caught me most off gaurd when I played my own material the first time was how drastically different some of the levels were of my tracks in my Live set. I'd be playing and I'd trigger a scene, then I'd trigger the next scene and it'd be twice as loud as the last scene, even though the million times I'd done that at home it always sounded even.

Walk in like you own the place.

Have fun!
thank you very much. Really useful words for both emotionals and practical reasons... :wink:
I know that the sound will be different. I ll do a 4 hours sound chk before... :lol:

I ll let you know how it will be

thanx again

p.s: do you know how can i make the space bar not be as a stop button?

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Post by sadmac » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:25 pm

lunabass wrote:It can be really dark up on stage and hard to see. I'd be practising in minimal lighting to ensure that you can see your controller and keyboard.

Spare cables are a must, I take combinations of various cables as you never know what inputs you will be faced with. Cable adapters can get you out of trouble. I always try to make balanced connections where possible (XLR, TRS). Stage lighting can work wonders on unbalanced connections. I even take a spare USB cable.

I dont use a mouse, too easy to click on something by accident.

Last but not least, I always take my trusty ironing board...they make great stands for your gear :lol:
yeaa thank you too...:)
i ll not use a mouse and spare cables will surround me as snakes...

thank you!

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Post by quandry » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:11 pm

the best advice, which it sounds like you are doing, is to practice. That said, practice like it is the real gig--no restarting songs, no stopping the set to adjust something--pretend you are live on stage and that anything that goes wrong must be dealt with in a smooth way in real-time--there are no time-outs on stage. Practice your entire set just like you're in the club--if you are supposed to play 2 hours straight, time your practice and practice for 2 hours straight to see how it goes, see if you run out of material or don't get to it all. Try practicing in the dark, to replicate the club conditions, possibly label you controllers if need be. If you are going to drink or anything before the show, practice in the same mental state you plan to be in for the gig.

The other best advice I can give from playing in a bunch of bands and doing scores of gigs is to record your practice sessions--set up a live track and resample the master out. Throw this track on a cd or you ipod or whatever, and listen to it a few times--see what sounds good and what needs work. It is hard to be discerning and remember all the ins and outs of a show//practice while you are in the moment. By recording it and listening to it a few times, you can better judge what needs work. Good luck.
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Post by hoffman2k » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:18 pm

All this preparing will do you no good, if you think you're smarter then Ableton's Copy Violation detection system. :lol:

I suggest doing your Live-show with the Live demo :wink:

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Post by sadmac » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:01 pm

quandry wrote:the best advice, which it sounds like you are doing, is to practice. That said, practice like it is the real gig--no restarting songs, no stopping the set to adjust something--pretend you are live on stage and that anything that goes wrong must be dealt with in a smooth way in real-time--there are no time-outs on stage. Practice your entire set just like you're in the club--if you are supposed to play 2 hours straight, time your practice and practice for 2 hours straight to see how it goes, see if you run out of material or don't get to it all. Try practicing in the dark, to replicate the club conditions, possibly label you controllers if need be. If you are going to drink or anything before the show, practice in the same mental state you plan to be in for the gig.

The other best advice I can give from playing in a bunch of bands and doing scores of gigs is to record your practice sessions--set up a live track and resample the master out. Throw this track on a cd or you ipod or whatever, and listen to it a few times--see what sounds good and what needs work. It is hard to be discerning and remember all the ins and outs of a show//practice while you are in the moment. By recording it and listening to it a few times, you can better judge what needs work. Good luck.
I do it almost every day...And yes, i ll burn a disk with the whole set but i am worrying cos it might sounds good and then i get dissapointed with what i ll listen from the gig recording...Anyways , i ll see.
Does anybody know how can i turn off dashborad to have some more cpu available and in general what else i could do to feel more safe ?
thanx all for the replies, they r really important for me!

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Post by quandry » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:41 pm

sadmac wrote: I do it almost every day...And yes, i ll burn a disk with the whole set but i am worrying cos it might sounds good and then i get dissapointed with what i ll listen from the gig recording...Anyways , i ll see.
Does anybody know how can i turn off dashborad to have some more cpu available and in general what else i could do to feel more safe ?
thanx all for the replies, they r really important for me!
I think you might be misunderstanding me--I'm not saying just render your set, I'm saying record what you are doing in real time (using the resampling of the master out on a new track in Live). That way, you can listen back to exactly what you did, not just what is pre-loaded in the set. Thus you can hear and evaluate any mixing, effect usage, crossfading, manipulation, and general flow that you are doing in real time--i.e. your "performance".
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Post by mike holiday » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:18 pm

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Post by sadmac » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:05 pm

mike holiday wrote:is this how to fix the spacebar?


http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=
yea this is it! Thank you.
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Post by sadmac » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:08 pm

quandry wrote:
sadmac wrote: I do it almost every day...And yes, i ll burn a disk with the whole set but i am worrying cos it might sounds good and then i get dissapointed with what i ll listen from the gig recording...Anyways , i ll see.
Does anybody know how can i turn off dashborad to have some more cpu available and in general what else i could do to feel more safe ?
thanx all for the replies, they r really important for me!
I think you might be misunderstanding me--I'm not saying just render your set, I'm saying record what you are doing in real time (using the resampling of the master out on a new track in Live). That way, you can listen back to exactly what you did, not just what is pre-loaded in the set. Thus you can hear and evaluate any mixing, effect usage, crossfading, manipulation, and general flow that you are doing in real time--i.e. your "performance".
i got it. Will do it also. Thanx in advance for thw words. Really thank you. :wink:

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Post by elektrovert » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:13 pm

I hope you're gonna reocrd this gig and post an mp3 up here when yer done?? :D

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Post by sadmac » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:17 pm

elektrovert wrote:I hope you're gonna reocrd this gig and post an mp3 up here when yer done?? :D
:lol:

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