How come most laptop performing musicians use macs??

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:46 pm

roby wrote:I would be very happy if I could just rid my garage off mice with my Sager

If you adjust the screen resolution to an odd number, and then you tilt the notebook lid open to 92.6 degrees, it emits a high-pitch noise in a fequency that is inaudible to humans but deadly to mice. Very handy.

If that doesn't work, you can also download software that will tune the infrared emitter on the Sager into a highly powerful laserbeam with which you can hunt down the little bastards.

Trust me dude, your Sager rocks in many many ways.

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:50 pm

seriously some of these reasonings are asinine.

pc's are crap because of the windows platform. no its not because you are just connected to the internet, its becaus the operatying system called WINDOWS that functions on DOS isn't a stable platform. ok? a lot of people know this, do you know what the code name for dos came from? DIRTY OPERATING SYSTEM. learn history before debating.

the windows platform only succeeded because of the econimcs of scale Bill Gates created by licensing his (STOLEN) idea to anyone who wanted to create a black box.

now which is better is still subjective. because of the programming community and support windows has you could say they have more stuff. true, also true that more people know about pc's before macs. it is convenient to own a pc because of this reason.

moving along... why do photo editing and audio production professionals prefer mac? because the pro applications such as pro tools and adobe originated with Macintosh and the apple platform. Therefore originally (and in my opinion) they are still optimized better for the OSX platform. PC's never had much support in these two departments long ago (when most of your idols started creating music) now they support these fine arts more.

windows XP is an old system now, its incredibly dated. VISTA (if u read reports) are following and doing things the MAC OSX and Linux platforms have been doing for the last 5 years. will they make the system more stable? well thats what they say and we'll see.

bottom line is the code holding up Windows is not stable no matter how much you argue it, its just not.

any other argument can be subjective, that one is hard to prove otherwise.

sorry for the rant.

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:51 pm

lgggg

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:55 pm

Digi V wrote:lgggg

If "lgggg" means "I'm about to take down an alien network" then I say, "Hope you got a Powerbook!"

Love the Cult-Of-Mac. You guys are a source of constant amusement.

/me *heart* Digi V

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:13 am

nebulae wrote:
Digi V wrote:lgggg
If "lgggg" means "I'm about to take down an alien network" then I say, "Hope you got a Powerbook!"

Love the Cult-Of-Mac. You guys are a source of constant amusement.

/me *heart* Digi V

actually i dont know how that lggg got there lol

shurik · Post by **shurik** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:24 am

sorry for the rant.

yeah man, you are basically talking about 10 years ago.
in the computerworld things can change in months. doesnt matter what adobe did some years ago, now their software is basically pc-orientated. they are concurers of final cut, dvd studio and the new foto-thing apple just lounced. with hardware for exampla, the powerbooks have been noticable slower with older technology then a centrino laptop for more than 2 years now. now finally the intel-macs are coming, so now they are equal. (high resolution screen, "airbag" for the harddisc, all stuff that IBM laptops had years before the macs.).
software wize windows XP finally is not more unstable anymore than OSX, who is saying that? has been truth 5 years ago, but its over. proof it, its an urban myth.
Im performing live with my pc with windows since 4 years now, also art festivals where I was jamming 3 days 10 hours a day, creating music live, recording it at the same time, live/cubase/reason/wavelab running, and you now what? No crashes, no problems. the only bad time was LIVE5.0. - 5.02, dropouts all the time.

so coming back to the first post, I'd say its a matter of taste, nothing more. of course OSX is really cool, and basically smarter than windows, but then open your ableton liveset, and what do you see? your ableton live set.
so I dont spent too much time with my operating system. my choice was for an IBM, because they are build more ergonomic than a mac (trackpiont), and they are modular (I can easily replace my dvd burner with a newer one, or use the slot for an extra hard disc, just with a "klick", without rebooting. thats so far ahead of any mac...).

the last 2,1/2 years, before the intel powerbook was there, it was also a matter of power (much faster pc laptops for a lower price).

cheers

IBM T43 1,8Ghz Centrino (10 Months old)15"SXGA 1024GB RAM 80GB HDD
WinXP/ Live 5.03

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:36 am

WINDOWS that functions on DOS

Windows hasn't been a DOS program for YEARS.

It's based on the NT kernel now.

I like when mac freaks that don't really understand computers try and put
anything non-mac down using old information gathered off stupid mac-
lover whinge sites.

The reason people use Mac notebooks for music work is simple:

SIZE.

They are less powerful, less customisable, less interoperable, but smaller.

-Ben

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:52 am

your an idiot. i was talking about the past, reasons why things were the way they were.

the XP system is still unstable because of its foundation.

i apologize my post didn't echo past/present.

no, size is not a factor genius. Sony makes laptops smaller than apple, apple doesn't even offer subnotebooks. though most apple laptops are thinner.

if you notice most people using Powerbooks for music usually carry around the 15inch.

FaX-01 · Post by **FaX-01** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:01 am

Digi V wrote:your an idiot. i was talking about the past, reasons why things were the way they were.

the XP system is still unstable because of its foundation.

PROOF please.
In real world use I have too call that statement for what it is ...simply a LIE.
A well optimised XP is just as stable.
The difference is OSX works seamlessly off the bat with no need for system tweaks for the pro Audio user.
Which IMHO explains why more Mac Laptops are seen being used for what it's worth.
I get superb operation form XP without crashes etc.
So it seems do Kraftwerk , Venetian Snares and SquarePusher.
Hey then again what do I know.
Just don't make statements like that as though they where fact.
In real world operation and use they aren't.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:09 am

Digi V wrote:your an idiot.

Yes! Now we have the elements of a good ol' fashioned flame war:

1. A troll
2. Lack of knowledgable information
3. Name calling

I love it!!! More...more.

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:10 am

FaX-01 wrote:
Digi V wrote:your an idiot. i was talking about the past, reasons why things were the way they were.

the XP system is still unstable because of its foundation.

PROOF please.
In real world use I have too call that statement for what it is ...simply a LIE.
A well optimised XP is just as stable.
The difference is OSX works seamlessly off the bat with no need for system tweaks for the pro Audio user.
Which IMHO explains why more Mac Laptops are seen being used for what it's worth.
I get superb operation form XP without crashes etc.
So it seems do Kraftwerk , Venetian Snares and SquarePusher.
Hey then again what do I know.
Just don't make statements like that as though they where fact.
In real world operation and use they aren't.

the key there is "a well optimised XP"

but you know what you're right.

truthfully, everyone DONT LISTEN TO ME.

i'm an idiot, the osx sucks, stick to pc.

i much rather all you pc users never switch

let the faithful keep using osx and thats it.

i much rather have it that way anyways.

no virus, no spyware problems, none of it.

k? done.

=) thanks for using windows.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:13 am

Digi V wrote: let the faithful keep using osx and thats it.

=) thanks for using windows.

By faithful, you mean zealots, right?

And you're welcome...all 3-4% of market share of you.

Let us all know how that alien network comes down with your powerbook.

*Group hug*

Digi V · Post by **Digi V** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:38 am

nebulae wrote:
Digi V wrote: let the faithful keep using osx and thats it.

=) thanks for using windows.
By faithful, you mean zealots, right?

And you're welcome...all 3-4% of market share of you.

Let us all know how that alien network comes down with your powerbook.

*Group hug*

hey no problem.

but answer me this

why the hell do i have to give you knowledgable information? you cant go do your own research? it wont take you long to find most tech articles talking about how vista is trying to follow the footsteps of OSX and linux.

regardless of what "KNOWLEDGE" i give you, you'll still question it.

this isn't a school paper.

i dont need references.

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:56 am

Woo Hoo another usless mac vs. windows fignt

What a boring non suprise

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:00 am

Oh come on, Mike, this one has pure entertainment value. Almost better than half-naked mudwrestling.