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[emporerandy]

so u are here by saying that for instance the hole hip hop generation was spawned
on the lack of creativity..using samples in new constructive ways..

Same goes for Dnb huh! Yup! Lazy mfkas!

Funny that you mention Lee Perry.. and i totally agree that hes an original.. but lord have mercy if the hole reggea enviroment didnt copy each other all the friggin time including Lee Perry INCLUDING Lee Skratch Perry (so get yo own facts straight)! And Yeah where would Lee Perry be if he hadnt done that! Huh!

And whut da fuk do you know about peoples knowledge about drums just because they sample..i mean come on are u stupid?? the real key to know how to use drumsamples (either sliced or looped) is to know how drums work..on top of that u can do alot of things a normal drummer wouldnt be able to do! Another thing is that it takes skill to understand how to program drums + if the shit rox IT ROX no matter what you are using..SAMPLING is an artFORM!

oh so sad, peoples feelings get hurt, oh so sad MA ASS..u sound like a fukn 105 year old bitch from shitsville. dork face get with the program

Hmmmm another ignorant ass pretending to be a musician.

[funk313]

yeah i know.. stepped over ..just had to get some facts straight and put lil andy ass in place thats all..

[emporerandy]

yeah i know.. stepped over ..just had to get some facts straight and put lil andy ass in place thats all..

I am sooo scared! What facts there fag313. "Scratch" came about how he used to move his feet across the ground in the studio you idiot. Not sampling or copying. They compared his movements to the scratch that a chicken would make on the ground. Shitville? I live in Jamaica dick head

[Obineg]

Create your own sounds. Sampling=laziness and lack of talent. If the individuals who created the original recordings were creative enough to create those sounds that you are after, you should be able to do it too. If you sample you shoudl not call yourself an artist. Thats my two cents.

This goes on :

don't sample other people riffs and breaks - make your own
don't use other peoples synth or drum samples - make your own
don't use other peoples synth presets - make your own
don't use other peoples synths - make your own (using reaktor or synthedit etc)
don't use other peoples programs - write your own

in the end you will have made your own computer made out of your own earwax and written an operating system for it . . . . . With absolutely no music to show for it

Just my 2cents

[pulsoc]

No, it's true!

I bought a drum kit, learned how to play, recorded myself playing the intro beat to "When the Levee Breaks", and now -

my stuff is so much better!!!!!!!

Thank goodness every conceivable drumbeat hasn't been played by SOMEONE at SOMETIME. Now I can be really original!

And everyone else is a poseur. Thank you and goodnight.

[emporerandy]

No, it's true!

I bought a drum kit, learned how to play, recorded myself playing the intro beat to "When the Levee Breaks", and now -

my stuff is so much better!!!!!!!

Thank goodness every conceivable drumbeat hasn't been played by SOMEONE at SOMETIME. Now I can be really original!

And everyone else is a poseur. Thank you and goodnight.

YAWN

[funk313]

No, it's true!

I bought a drum kit, learned how to play, recorded myself playing the intro beat to "When the Levee Breaks", and now -

my stuff is so much better!!!!!!!

Thank goodness every conceivable drumbeat hasn't been played by SOMEONE at SOMETIME. Now I can be really original!

And everyone else is a poseur. Thank you and goodnight.

YAWN

..aawww...

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ye, nice video. dont let any laws bring you down!

[Marquis]

Emporerandy, when you were a little kid did you have leggo? Ever built something out of leggo? Did you feel like you'd achieved something? All by yourself? Or did you give thanks to the leggo company who designed and built the blocks?

Or when mum and dad said "you're a clever boy, andrew, for building that tree house" did you reply "well, actually, mum and dad, it was really the tree that grew the wood who made this treehouse so great"?

I appreciate that it takes a great talent to write, perform and produce orignal music. But I have a lot more respect for a sampling, reinterpretting musician that I do for any cover band.

So, as long as the final song is really very different from the original sample use, then great, go for it. I don't listen to Squarepusher or Aphex Twin and think "geez, no talent, it's all just reinterpretations of the Amen Break". It's TOTALLY new music.

And I wonder how G C Coleman from the Winston's would react if you sat him down in front of Ableton, with your Trigger finger hooked up, sliced up his "Amen, My Brother" break, and began to rearrange it in front of him. He'd probably be ecstatic.

Good luck with your search for a truly original composition, dude.

[funk313]

yeah i know.. stepped over ..just had to get some facts straight and put lil andy ass in place thats all..

I am sooo scared! What facts there fag313. "Scratch" came about how he used to move his feet across the ground in the studio you idiot. Not sampling or copying. They compared his movements to the scratch that a chicken would make on the ground. Shitville? I live in Jamaica dick head

hej andy you dont have to be scared aight.. When i wrote Lee Skratch Perry i wasnt referring to like scratching on a record.. just his name..

hey but since you live in jamaica.. whats your stand point on the copying that went on and on in your country .. i mean listening to a lot of downbeat/roots records..all those beats still being used or "shared" between diffrent artists..do you also think that they lack creativity or do you think it has helped evolve the musical basis that jamaica can be so proud of today..

[sweetjesus]

Good luck with your search for a truly original composition, dude.

i spent forever trying to find the elusive original composition only to realise its not there... in the form you expect it anyway.

when you create a piece of music as long as its not a complete cover, you have created new music.. its that bloody simple and nobody can take that away from you.

[kennerb]

Emporerandy, when you were a little kid did you have leggo? Ever built something out of leggo? Did you feel like you'd achieved something? All by yourself? Or did you give thanks to the leggo company who designed and built the blocks?

Or when mum and dad said "you're a clever boy, andrew, for building that tree house" did you reply "well, actually, mum and dad, it was really the tree that grew the wood who made this treehouse so great"?

I appreciate that it takes a great talent to write, perform and produce orignal music. But I have a lot more respect for a sampling, reinterpretting musician that I do for any cover band.

So, as long as the final song is really very different from the original sample use, then great, go for it. I don't listen to Squarepusher or Aphex Twin and think "geez, no talent, it's all just reinterpretations of the Amen Break". It's TOTALLY new music.

And I wonder how G C Coleman from the Winston's would react if you sat him down in front of Ableton, with your Trigger finger hooked up, sliced up his "Amen, My Brother" break, and began to rearrange it in front of him. He'd probably be ecstatic.

Good luck with your search for a truly original composition, dude.

Very good points. And since Lee Perry came up in convo I gotta point out that the entire genre of dub and dancehall is based off of playing the same "DUB" records to different artists singing and toasting over them. The very name dub is about that. Dub plates yo

Also I make sculpture out of a lot of found objects. Does that make me a charlatan artist?

Is this art? Would it be more artistic if you pulled the cars out?

[emporerandy]

Emporerandy, when you were a little kid did you have leggo? Ever built something out of leggo? Did you feel like you'd achieved something? All by yourself? Or did you give thanks to the leggo company who designed and built the blocks?

Or when mum and dad said "you're a clever boy, andrew, for building that tree house" did you reply "well, actually, mum and dad, it was really the tree that grew the wood who made this treehouse so great"?

I appreciate that it takes a great talent to write, perform and produce orignal music. But I have a lot more respect for a sampling, reinterpretting musician that I do for any cover band.

So, as long as the final song is really very different from the original sample use, then great, go for it. I don't listen to Squarepusher or Aphex Twin and think "geez, no talent, it's all just reinterpretations of the Amen Break". It's TOTALLY new music.

And I wonder how G C Coleman from the Winston's would react if you sat him down in front of Ableton, with your Trigger finger hooked up, sliced up his "Amen, My Brother" break, and began to rearrange it in front of him. He'd probably be ecstatic.

Good luck with your search for a truly original composition, dude.

Very good points. And since Lee Perry came up in convo I gotta point out that the entire genre of dub and dancehall is based off of playing the same "DUB" records to different artists singing and toasting over them. The very name dub is about that. Dub plates yo

Also I make sculpture out of a lot of found objects. Does that make me a charlatan artist?

Is this art? Would it be more artistic if you pulled the cars out?

OK legos are created for the purpose of building things. Hmmm I wonder how many musicians WROTE their music for the purpose of having somebody use it for sampling. By the way I never played with legos. Yep you guys win sample as much as you want. I just wont do it. I will TRY to respect the fact that it is art. I just hate to see people like P. Diddy sample peoples hard work and make millions off of it. By the way Lee Perry never used anybody elses music and call it his own. Except for publishing rights to some of Mr. Marleys originals, which he produced.

[kennerb]

OK legos are created for the purpose of building things. Hmmm I wonder how many musicians WROTE their music for the purpose of having somebody use it for sampling. By the way I never played with legos. Yep you guys win sample as much as you want. I just wont do it. I will TRY to respect the fact that it is art. I just hate to see people like P. Diddy sample peoples hard work and make millions off of it. By the way Lee Perry never used anybody elses music and call it his own. Except for publishing rights to some of Mr. Marleys originals, which he produced.

"how many musicians WROTE their music for the purpose of having somebody use it for sampling."

Quite a few actually. There is a whole industry around it these days.

How many obscure musicians have had the opportunity to make more money off their song for sample use than they made with that one hit they had in the 70's?

Bob James made some pretty positive comments about it.

P.diddy = lame in my opinion. When someone swoops down and just does a rap track over the whole instrumental of a hit they should be embarassed. That's not what I am talking about when I refer to sampling.
That's like putting sticker on your car and calling the whole thing your creation. Not at all what I meant.

I'm sure you are right about Lee Perry but how many artists made hits off of his dub plates back in the day. I have whole collections of different original reggae artists singing over the same instrumentals. For that matter what is the difference between sampling and having say Robbie Shakespeare come in and play the same exact bassline that was heard on a previous cut done by him?

And for the record (no pun intended) 99.5% of my stuff is midi or hand played and sampled by me or my crew but I defend sampling as a very important evolutionary step in music production and appreciation.

[DeadlyKungFu]

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