Is There Such a Slicer that will allow me To Drag and Drop

Former Pharaoh · Post by **Former Pharaoh** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:30 pm

KInetic wrote:This might be close : http://www.livelab.dk/liveslice.php

Not yet. Jacob has mentioned that he has it on the to do list to add DnD.

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:31 pm

stale bread wrote:i'm trying to find a slicer that will allow me to drag and drop from live right into the slicer and then use the slicer in a midi channel with-in Live?

use the impulse - you can drag a loop into arrange, zoom in to the resolution you want then select the sections you want for your one shots then drag them (no need to slice) straight to a slot in impulse

I seem to be telling people about this all the time - it's a great feature and Abe should put it in BIG LETTERS

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:38 pm

Willyum wrote:
T.I.M. wrote:Live can do that. If you record into the arrangement view you can take slices of audio and drag them to impulse.
The whole point of a slicer is that it is a workflow device.......you hear a sample that you would like to use chopped, you drag and drop in to slicer then use!

Not....
...

That's about 10 chops in one sample.

Willyum, do you realise you dont need to cut paste etc etc? you really can select the slice, then drag/drop - then it's there on a slot on the impulse

once it's on a slot in impulse it's there ready to play

Although I definitely think an area for improvement would be if you could drag the loop straight to the impulse and have it split it accross the slots - of course it would mean cutting it into eighths so you would also want the ability to group more than one impulse together

another good option would be to have a dialog that asks if you want it to create a midi clip for the loop that places notes in the right places like reason does

This is how I think it would work for live rather than a dedicated plugin

KInetic · Post by **KInetic** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:34 am

Former Pharaoh wrote:
KInetic wrote:This might be close : http://www.livelab.dk/liveslice.php
Not yet. Jacob has mentioned that he has it on the to do list to add DnD.

Yep, but while he waits for that, he´ll still have an awesome plug-in

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:18 am

shit, thanks for the responses, to put more of a perspective on the situation
i know of the drag and drop to the impulse and simpler feature of live that forge and others have spoke of, thing is that it would be great for drum hits
only but i sample and slice up everything including my band, so i need an inline sampler that will allow me to work quickly. its funny cause willyum knows exactly what i'm talking about, i just wish in addition to his description that i could drag and drop from such slicer. but thanks alot folks
and keep the suggestions comin

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:12 am

djadonis206 wrote:
Phatmatik doesn't import Recycle files otherwise I'd give it a +2

:

that BLOWS!

I know i'm a bit new to mac but I've had the WORST time trying to get rex files to play......even with the reason demo

anyways....phatmatic just looks sweet, but if it doesn't do rex......PHOOOOUUUIE!

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:53 pm

stale bread wrote:shit, thanks for the responses, to put more of a perspective on the situation
i know of the drag and drop to the impulse and simpler feature of live that forge and others have spoke of, thing is that it would be great for drum hits
only but i sample and slice up everything including my band, so i need an inline sampler that will allow me to work quickly. its funny cause willyum knows exactly what i'm talking about, i just wish in addition to his description that i could drag and drop from such slicer. but thanks alot folks
and keep the suggestions comin

NI intakt will do it

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:13 pm

thanks forge i'm going to try that asap, if anybody's using Intakt i'd like to know how you're getting on with it ...that LiveSlice looks the business as well, i wonder how stable it is.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:49 pm

eyeknow wrote:anyways....phatmatic just looks sweet, but if it doesn't do rex......PHOOOOUUUIE!

yeah, but let's be honest here, the recycle format is flawed to begin with - why not just save the transient info as meta-data directly on a .wav? That's what Phatmatik does anyway.

creepjoint · Post by **creepjoint** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:06 pm

http://www.concretefx.com/MicroDicer.htm

does all that, though not sure about the drag and drop...but thats a limitation of Live

PC only

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:48 pm

Machinate wrote:yeah, but let's be honest here, the recycle format is flawed to begin with - why not just save the transient info as meta-data directly on a .wav? That's what Phatmatik does anyway.

which is nice, the transient data - however I found I couldn't be as precise with Phatmatik pro (it's to small) as you can with Recycle - fills up the whole screen
plus you can change the background and fore ground colors - I use a white background with black waveforms

Now, with Recycle you can use your rex file in most sequencers (except live) most samplers except Akai's and er, Phatmatik. Plus you can export the individual slices for mixing and matching
If Phatmatik imported rex's I'd be happy ---> it doesn't and I am sad

actually I'm not - Donald and Fergie played this weekend at 2 seperate clubs on the same night on the same block - I was running from one to another - I bought Fergie a shot of Stoli, I told donald he rocked it (FYI DONALD HAS THE MOST AMAZING RECORDS (CD-R's)) RIGHT NOW!!! Absolutely incredible...

Donald played a little longer then Fergi so Fergie mobbed in and got on the mic for a minute - it was a great night both clubs packed!!!

Willyum · Post by **Willyum** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:57 pm

stale bread,

I tried the extended Demo for both Phatmatic and Intakt, They are both very close to what we are looking for. The intakt is more powerful and can run without a host.....Running as a VSTi only crashed once (but then again, it is an extended demo), one thing I didn't like is the automatic chops are tempermental, some times they are dead on but other times it's way off, also there does not apear to be a 1/16 or 1/32 chop mode.

The Phatmatic seems to be a lot better at catching the proper chop points and it has both 1/16 and 1/32 but the sensitivity bar can not be dragged up/down to fine tune you have to click in different places within the bar

They both say they can do multiple files at once but I have only been succesfull on the Intakt

I didn't need the manual for either one and was able to get choppin within a few minutes.

The Phatmatic seems more CPU friendly and has NOT crashed Live at all yet.

Seems like Intakt is better if you want to get into the more involved features like the Timestreched keyboard and tweaking the chopps also for working without a host.....And Phatmatic is better at getting str8 up chops and getting busy!

Neither one rocks like FL Slicer but the Phatmatic comes close enough.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:47 pm

a goodlookin out on that one willyum i really appreciate it, so are you using the fruity slicer for your beats right now, for some reason the fruity slicer seems a bit confusing to me, i'm not a novice but i must be doing something wrong, my method is to load a slicer chan, drop a sample in and then start messin with the lo and hi dials to get more or less slices but each time i move a dial it takes a few seconds for fruity to do it's thing and i have no way of knowing where it will slice, i checked fruitys tutorials online but the slicer tutorial does not go in depth at all , if you have any insight on that one i could use the help. it would be nice to get that working within live.

i guess both phatmatik and intakt are non-destructive?

12micsn1 · Post by **12micsn1** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:43 am

Moody wrote:
ILTK wrote:Checked out PhatMatic Pro?

http://www.glaresoft.com/products/phatmatikpro/
+1

I also recommend Phatmatik Pro

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:36 pm

a *bump* for the road.

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