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why does owned get spelled with a P?

that was funny!

like Young Einstein meets Aphex twin's rubber Johnny

forge wrote:why does owned get spelled with a P?

The word “pwn” is an Internet variation on the word “own.” There are several possible origins for the word, all of which rely on a pre-existing emphasis by computer users of the word “own.” Originating on the computer scene, it is most often seen in online gaming sessions today.

The likely beginning of the meme is from the hacker scene on EFNet IRC circa 1994. “Owned” or “Own3d” referred to getting administrative privileges on someone’s computer by exploiting a security vulnerability. [citation needed] The use of the word own in terms of victory over another predates its use in the gaming subculture. This accounts for the pre-existing proliferation of the word, which may then have been morphed into “pwn” through any of the following possible means.

* The term could have simply been derived from a common misspelling, with no significant event proliferating its use [1][2]. Instead, it is assumed that it simply began to spread as a result of fast typing, due to the proximity of the P and O keys on most modern keyboard layouts, and the tendency of gamers and net users to create and expand internet memes.

* Another way of deriving “pwn” from “own” is by jokingly stating that P is the next letter after O, alphabetically, and in that way poses as some sort of higher level—so “pwn” is a kind of superlative “own.” This is the origin of other web slang expressions, such as “raising” the slang spelling “gr8” (for great) to “gr9” because 9 is the next step up from 8. Compare this with Victor Borge's inflationary language.

* Another possibility is that “pwn” is derived from “pawn”. Some first person shooter games had the phrase "Gamer1 pawned Gamer2's head" whenever Gamer 1 defeated Gamer2. Therefore it is possible that “pawn” was shortened to “pwn” by the players, and seeing the similarities to “own”, it stuck.

* Yet another possible explanation for the proliferation and common use of “pwn” is the circumvention of language filters. Some game and chat servers began to ban the word “own” and its variants, as it was frequently being used in a verbally abusive manner when players achieved victory. Sometimes the message would be blocked; other times the user would simply be banned from the server. Some of these players have used “pwn” as a substitute word in order to bypass the filters.


Like using 'teh' instead of 'the' to mean extreme, typos turned into leet speak, as in Computo is teh whiner.

Relax ppl...i was joking about Kid Beyond.... I even saw him (Kid Beyond) live in action ...great artist

what a great novelty find.

Sorry, but I think Kid Beyond is wack...

thelike5 wrote:Sorry, but I think Kid Beyond is wack...

you're certainly entitled to you opinion, maybe you don't like beatboxing or his style of music, and that is fine. But I think it would be a fallacy to say that he isn't very talented as a beatboxer, and that he isn't using Live in a very creative way. Furthermore, he is creating his music on stage all-live on-the-fly, no prerecorded material at all--are you doing that? I applauded Kid and others that use Live as more than just an easy way to DJ, but rather really push the potentials of Live and use it to loop live instruments, be it bass, guitar, keyboards, or just your mouth. you might not like Bobby McFerrin either, but he too can do amazing things with just his mouth and body, and both he and Kid are very musical. I think saying he is wack is over the top...

Saying that Kid Beyond got pwned by some kid with an edited video is wack.

Absolute class - had a smile on face after 10 seconds and didn't stop smilin' 'til it ended!

Well done that man!

first about KB.. seriously, it's not that creative. he's a good beatboxer but come on. my roommate started doing the same thing with live and hadn't even heard of KB and thought he was onto something. he has shitty beatboxin skills and still made it sound good.

and about the video kid, isn't anybody else curious how he didn't get spit all over the camera??? now that's skill!

rapidix wrote:first about KB.. seriously, it's not that creative. he's a good beatboxer but come on. my roommate started doing the same thing with live and hadn't even heard of KB and thought he was onto something. he has shitty beatboxin skills and still made it sound good.

Kid Beyond can carry the beat, a bass and SING LEAD LINES AT THE SAME TIME!!! OMFG how cool is that?? I've never seen or heard of anyone even coming close to that.

You have to give it up for Kid Beyond, even if you don't like the music.

DeadlyKungFu wrote:

rapidix wrote:first about KB.. seriously, it's not that creative. he's a good beatboxer but come on. my roommate started doing the same thing with live and hadn't even heard of KB and thought he was onto something. he has shitty beatboxin skills and still made it sound good.

Kid Beyond can carry the beat, a bass and SING LEAD LINES AT THE SAME TIME!!! OMFG how cool is that?? I've never seen or heard of anyone even coming close to that.

You have to give it up for Kid Beyond, even if you don't like the music.

Uh, I don't think he's actually doing those things simultaneously--he's looping each part and adding layer upon layer of vocal tracks, at least from what I've seen in the videos. Reguardless, he is a good beatboxer, and makes pretty interesting music just using his mouth, music that if you had never heard of or seen Kid Beyond and listened to, you'd find it hard to believe the music was all made by one person's mouth and no "instruments"--the range of sounds is impressive.

And rapidx--does your roomate sell out fairly large venues in the bay area and tour the united states, and also act as a spokesperson/performer for Ableton Live--I don't think so.

quandry wrote:Uh, I don't think he's actually doing those things simultaneously--he's looping each part and adding layer upon layer of vocal tracks, at least from what I've seen in the videos.

I can't find them now but I swear I saw vids of KB, he'd do his thing, then say towards the end of the set, "OK, now I'm going to do all three at once, vocals, bass, drums..." and it didn't sound like samples, I'm sure they weren't. The stuff I've found searching has been more recent and it's obvious when he uses Live, he rants about it more than I do . Amazing guy, until him Rahzel was the best I'd heard, or the dude from Police Academy.