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My remote has no problem of getting it,s power from usb.
But don,t pin it on a hub, it doesn,t work.
My powerbook has two usb ports. One for the remote 25
power supply. The other one for the hub: midi-interface, mouse,
printer, enz.
But remember some laptops or not supplying the
right amount of power on their usb ports. Hope this wil help...

Cheers.

Anonymous wrote: 3) what the hell is up with both of those pieces of gear boasting about stand alone power from USB when it sounds like neither of them can actually do it? Bus power is a huge selling point to me, and likely to others, which is why it sounds so attractive, but if it's not possible, isn't it shitty karma to lie about your feature sets?

Bus power works fine on my ReMote 25 here, I think the bus power option may be a little shaky on some laptops with low usb voltage, but hey, the ReMote's quite the beast and needs a little juice. There's nothing stopping you using batteries (rechargeable OK) too...shame too miss out on such a nice piece of gear just because of 50/50 usb power
nik

Are the drivers for the Remote 25 out yet? I went to the Novation site and was unable to find the drivers. It said for mac users to just use the midi out function. Can someone confirm that I can use the controller via usb?

Thank you

For my information: not yet. So we mac users have to use
midi interfaces. They promised the osx drivers this summer.
(I hope they also make a 9.2 driver)
greetinz Jamm

the uc-33 is really a great controller, but...:

if you are synchronizing to laptops per midi with 2 uc-33, the timing of the slave jumps 5-10 bpms!!!

a shame...

I am going to be purchasing a uc-33 pretty soon as well. I plan on dedicating it to all the stuff I want to tweak live in Reason over the loops I am jamming in Live. Plus, next to to the Kenton Control Freak Live and the M-Audio Ozone, this thing will def. increase the aesthetic of my live performance. I am doing my best to legitimize this live laptop thing!

- Nick

protdroid wrote: I am doing my best to legitimize this live laptop thing!

- Nick

watch out for the laptop backlash!

http://www.personarecords.com/merch/ima ... ption.html

i think mr. anti-laptop in that article is a moron. he claims that in the beginning it was "all about the music" and "stage presence was minimal" but now that electronic music is maturing, we need big stage shows. smurf that! it's totaly opposite. back in the day, you'd go to some wherehouse full of stobes and crazy light displays, video screens with psychadelic images, fog machines and countless little kids all fucked up on x twirling glowsticks and worshiping some dude punching buttons on a stage like a god. you don't need all that external stuff now that electronic music is "maturing", you can get away with sitting behind a laptop in a little cafe or something. people don't need all the flashy dashy bullshit nowadays, because you can go to a show, and truly be there "for the music".

and there's not a bit of difference between punching buttons on a 909 or punching keys on a computer. it's all electronics, it's all microchips running ones and zeros (analog excluded) it all plugs into the wall. one is just more complicated circuitry. i'm sick of hardware purists. they're dumb.

i'm turning my laptop into an actual playable, improvisable instrument with live. i don't have big exagerated physical movements when i play, 'cause i don't need them. if this guy is going to dismiss people like me, then he's stuck in the past and he'll miss out on a lot of good music.

ok, i 'm done with the soapbox.


k

dirtystudios wrote:i think mr. anti-laptop in that article is a moron. he claims that in the beginning it was "all about the music" and "stage presence was minimal" but now that electronic music is maturing, we need big stage shows. smurf that! it's totaly opposite. back in the day, you'd go to some wherehouse full of stobes and crazy light displays, video screens with psychadelic images, fog machines and countless little kids all fucked up on x twirling glowsticks and worshiping some dude punching buttons on a stage like a god. you don't need all that external stuff now that electronic music is "maturing", you can get away with sitting behind a laptop in a little cafe or something. people don't need all the flashy dashy bullshit nowadays, because you can go to a show, and truly be there "for the music".

and there's not a bit of difference between punching buttons on a 909 or punching keys on a computer. it's all electronics, it's all microchips running ones and zeros (analog excluded) it all plugs into the wall. one is just more complicated circuitry. i'm sick of hardware purists. they're dumb.

i'm turning my laptop into an actual playable, improvisable instrument with live. i don't have big exagerated physical movements when i play, 'cause i don't need them. if this guy is going to dismiss people like me, then he's stuck in the past and he'll miss out on a lot of good music.

ok, i 'm done with the soapbox.


k

i totally agree...in fact for my upcoming show, i ordered one of his anti laptop tshirts and will be sporting one during the gig. i'm planning on sending him a picture of me wearing it!

dirtystudios wrote:i think mr. anti-laptop in that article is a moron. k

also, the author of that article is stewart walker, a music producer of reputable techno. i like his music, though. *shrug* i'm not offended by his sentiments...to each their own.

dirtystudios wrote:
i'm turning my laptop into an actual playable, improvisable instrument with live. i don't have big exagerated physical movements when i play, 'cause i don't need them. if this guy is going to dismiss people like me, then he's stuck in the past and he'll miss out on a lot of good music.

ok, i 'm done with the soapbox.


k

Completely agree ... the deeper I get into Live - and I dare say I'm quite deep into it - the more my computer is turning into one of the "jazziest" instruments available with keywords as improvisation, dexterity , knowing the ins & outs of your instruments ... " Give me a sound and I'll make you a tune .... "

Whoever this anti-laptop guy is, he sounds like a BT fan in the making. That's what he wants, someone jumping around like a monkey, playing rock star for 2 hours.

I think we need to start a club - Laptop Artists with Anti-Laptop T-shirts. We'll march on his house, a bunch of zombies with laptops (you can't tell if we're dead or performing, right?). That could be the start of the annual Laptop Respect parade.

Doesn't that Peaches chick shag her MC505 at every show like Rawk God ca. 1970 would hump his amp? Is that what he wants?!?! Spotty geeks with bad sense of dress making love to their machinery?! Or maybe he wants us to smash up two thousand pounds of gear at every show?! Pour whiskey on a TiBook every night and let the Zippo do its thing?!

If the performer doesn't feel like moving, let him stand still's what I say. I'm in the clear anyways, as I cut (present tense) my performing teeth in a nu metal band - my latency times are probably higher than the time I spend standing still on stage... God knows what I'll be like when I get to gigging with an iBook...

/Niklas

I just love the Laptop respect parade thing Rx!!

Youre my hero

And Im soon off for sushine

C

Well, I kind of see his point in that article. I definitely think there should be more of an element of kinetic performance in laptop sets, simply because it helps the audience relate to the music imho. I understand that in an ideal world the performer should be able to stand still if he/she wants to, but this is far from the case in the present day. I have been accused of playing mp3s many times in the past, ironically when I was using an all hardware setup with NO computer. Mr. Walker has a good point, although it is presented in somewhat of a scathing way. Let's try to read through that anger and get to the point of what he is saying, i.e. people ought to be a bit more into their own material when performing.

Of course there are some musicians whose styles call for kind of a dead calm during the show, but then people are usually sitting down for that, or at least not dancing frenetically. I think a good rule of thumb is this: However the audience moves (or doesn't move) as a result of listening to your music/noise/whatever, is pretty close to the way you ought to be moving. Most audiences are going to pick up on the vibes you are sending out as a performer, and act accordingly. This is the big dynamic of live performance: The relationship between the performer(s), the music, and the people on the receiving end. With few exceptions, the performer has to have a certain self-confidence best communicated through body language during the performance.

I believe this is what Mr. Walker is getting at, and I think we should forgive him his rather rash way of communicating his concerns, as many of us (myself very much included) probably can come off this very same way when speaking about something we have passion for. The lesson? Buy some midi controllers and control more stuff Live! That is what this wonderful software, combined with something like Reason or P5 is for. All the knobs, the ivories, and the blinking lights will make it more likely that people will say (to steal a quote from reasonstation.net), "Wow, look at the smart guy doing live computer shit." As a newer breed of performing community, we must do our part in legitimizing it as a genuine form of expression, and not always put the blame on the evil unaccepting hardware zealots/uninformed public/etc.

sorry for the tirade, but I think someone needs to play devils advocate lite here.

- Nick

- Nick