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longjohns wrote:

cashman wrote:

ethios4 wrote:The relative system would obviously require 12 times as many samples!

Maybe I'm tired or not thinking straight for some reason, but why would that be the case?

because you'd have the sound "do" at all 12 pitches, etc.

But wouldn't it be possible, within a couple of octaves at least, to make twelve samples and change the pitches in the computer/ allow the sampler to make the changes?

thanks guys. Im not in music school at the moment, im shedding like a mutterfutter what will be my core at berklee school of music. IE theory, sight reading, sight singing, harmony, ear training, all that crap. Im hoping i can just test out of core, with ratings high enough to just take the classes i want when i do decide to go there. (hopefully ill be good enough to get some money too )

Besides im using Ableton for real time composition, and its nice knowing how to play what you hear in your head.



Also, the pitches dont REALLY matter so much so long as the scale degrees are right...(i dont have perfect pitch) SO, im hoping i can use the... MAKE YOU SOUND GOOD NO MATTER WHAT KEYS YOUR PLAYING midi tool to transpose the DO, to diffrent keys, so when im reading its like... well if you understand solfege you probibly know what im talking about.

thanks again guys

cashman wrote:

longjohns wrote:

cashman wrote: Maybe I'm tired or not thinking straight for some reason, but why would that be the case?

because you'd have the sound "do" at all 12 pitches, etc.

But wouldn't it be possible, within a couple of octaves at least, to make twelve samples and change the pitches in the computer/ allow the sampler to make the changes?

That would work if you're not too interested in realistic sounding voices, which shouldbe fine for solfege practice.

Hehe, as mentioned above...have fun with the atonal sight-singing, when you get there!

Reviving this old thread. I just started looking into solfege training. I'm curious: Do any of you use it in your music making/composing, and would you be able to describe a little bit about how?

I use it (and teach it to college undergrads) for sight reading on gigs and sometimes to organize something I'm composing in my head. Essentially it helps you to maintain a tonal center (assuming you're playing/composing tonal music) when playing/singing/composing by basically providing a mnemonic guide to help you hear the function of notes in relation to each other. Honestly I'm not sure how much help it will be for someone just making music with Live. If you're wanting to become a better overall musician then I find it to be invaluable.

If you want to learn solfege I would start by being able to sing scales using it (Major, Minor, Harmonic Minor, Melodic Minor, etc.). Then you can move to interval exercises like singing those same scales broken into 3rds, 4ths, 5ths, 6ths, and 7ths.

So using Movable Minor Do:

Major: Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol-La-Ti-Do
Natural Minor: Do-Re-Me-Fa-Sol-Le-Te-Do
Harmonic Minor: Do-Re-Me-Fa-Sol-Le-Ti-Do
Melodic Minor (ascending): Do-Re-Me-Fa-Sol-La-Ti-Do

Major Scale in 3rds: Do-Mi-Re-Fa-Mi-Sol-Fa-La-Sol-Ti-La-Do-Ti-Re-Do—Do-La-Ti-Sol-La-Fa-Sol-Mi-Fa-Re-Mi-Do-Re-Ti-Do

I find those kinds of interval exercises help immensely. Remember: if you can sing it, you can hear it.

Thanks for that excellent summary. I tried some of those exercises; the arpeggiated scales are going to take some practice especially.

Or in Indian CLassical Music

Sa Re GA Ma Pa Dha Ni Sa for melody

and for tabla:
dha dhin dhin dha dha tirikita ta dha!

make an audio then render in midi to the drum rack and you have instant solfege pads.