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Post by b0unce » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:31 pm

heh

and yet its and industry standard
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Post by gomi » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:35 pm

snowtires wrote: most likely the reason is that digidesign can barely get protools to be compatible with audio hardware, they don't even want to bother with stuff like video cards and displays.
that sounds about right.

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Post by b0unce » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:38 pm

could it be that its just the project-studio types that have beef with protools ?
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Post by gomi » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:08 pm

b0unce wrote:could it be that its just the project-studio types that have beef with protools ?
i dunno, i work in an all protools all the time facility with a dozen HD systems and 30+ le stations..


i hate protools.

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Post by quandry » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:13 pm

b0unce wrote:could it be that its just the project-studio types that have beef with protools ?
so why aren't you on protools forums making hundreds of posts a month rather than here--maybe because protools is an archaic bloated dinosaur of an app, and Live is way more intuitive, straight-forward and inspiring? Even the "project-studio" hardware that PT themselves have released and marketed sucks donkey (M-box anyone?)...
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Post by zion15 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:45 pm

sheesh. two different apps, two different uses.

most people won't argue that digi is a dinosaur and their hardware sux, but then again, lots of people will admit that the pt software is ace for editing / postprod.

then again, some hate it.
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Post by b0unce » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:46 pm

quandry wrote:
b0unce wrote:could it be that its just the project-studio types that have beef with protools ?
so why aren't you on protools forums making hundreds of posts a month rather than here--maybe because protools is an archaic bloated dinosaur of an app, and Live is way more intuitive, straight-forward and inspiring? Even the "project-studio" hardware that PT themselves have released and marketed sucks donkey (M-box anyone?)...
...uh

ya.
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Post by noisetonepause » Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:41 pm

ProTools if for pro tools.
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by snowtires » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:25 pm

quandry wrote:
b0unce wrote:could it be that its just the project-studio types that have beef with protools ?
so why aren't you on protools forums making hundreds of posts a month rather than here--maybe because protools is an archaic bloated dinosaur of an app, and Live is way more intuitive, straight-forward and inspiring? Even the "project-studio" hardware that PT themselves have released and marketed sucks donkey (M-box anyone?)...
i have a project mix i/o and i have never been able to get it to work with protools. after talking to digidesign's tech support and maudio's tech support, their only solution was to send the project mix back and get a new one. great advice, thanks guys! thank god it works in live. pro tools eats it anyway, i'm not all that upset, but yeah, the stuff they market as pro-tools compatible isn't really compatible at all. go to m-audio's site and look in the trouble shooting section for all of the hoops you have to jump through to get a project mix to 'work' with pro-tools. they ask you to create a device profile in audio / midi preferences (os x) that doesn't exist anymore, apple removed it in 10.4.2.

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Post by Michael-SW » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:53 pm

As for the turning down color bit depth, that might actually do something useful on the ordinary Macbooks, since they share system and gfx memory. The Pros have their own graphics memory so they shouldn't care.

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Post by gomi » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:58 pm

snowtires wrote:
i have a project mix i/o and i have never been able to get it to work with protools. after talking to digidesign's tech support and maudio's tech support, their only solution was to send the project mix back and get a new one. great advice, thanks guys! thank god it works in live. pro tools eats it anyway, i'm not all that upset, but yeah, the stuff they market as pro-tools compatible isn't really compatible at all. go to m-audio's site and look in the trouble shooting section for all of the hoops you have to jump through to get a project mix to 'work' with pro-tools. they ask you to create a device profile in audio / midi preferences (os x) that doesn't exist anymore, apple removed it in 10.4.2.

1. were you using m-powered protools (the only version that works with m-audio gear)
2. do you have your ilok dongle
3. the audio/midi preferences are still there, they are in your /Applications/Utilities folder and are called "Audio MIDI Setup.app" and has been since as long as i can remember.. did you delete it for some reason?

/end tech support rant

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Post by snowtires » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:25 pm

gomi wrote:
snowtires wrote:
i have a project mix i/o and i have never been able to get it to work with protools. after talking to digidesign's tech support and maudio's tech support, their only solution was to send the project mix back and get a new one. great advice, thanks guys! thank god it works in live. pro tools eats it anyway, i'm not all that upset, but yeah, the stuff they market as pro-tools compatible isn't really compatible at all. go to m-audio's site and look in the trouble shooting section for all of the hoops you have to jump through to get a project mix to 'work' with pro-tools. they ask you to create a device profile in audio / midi preferences (os x) that doesn't exist anymore, apple removed it in 10.4.2.

1. were you using m-powered protools (the only version that works with m-audio gear)
2. do you have your ilok dongle
3. the audio/midi preferences are still there, they are in your /Applications/Utilities folder and are called "Audio MIDI Setup.app" and has been since as long as i can remember.. did you delete it for some reason?

/end tech support rant
1. yes
2. yes
3. i meant the profile they want you to use (mackie > hui interfance) is not a valid selection anymore in audio/midi preferences. i looked and looked and finally m-audio said, yeah, 'apple removed that profile selection from 10.4.2.' so that means the tech support 'help' on their website is no longer valid, and they know it.

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Post by dodgyedgy » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:42 pm

noisetonepause wrote:ProTools if for pro tools.
Now there's a backward thinking and utterly crap statement.

even the LE system is a joy to use once you get used to it. And the convertors are great on the DIGI 001.

I used to hate it, but i love it now, its a great piece of recording software thats been as stable as you like on the g4 mac in the studio.

Good piece of software.

Moron.

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Post by gomi » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:32 pm

snowtires wrote: 3. i meant the profile they want you to use (mackie > hui interfance) is not a valid selection anymore in audio/midi preferences. i looked and looked and finally m-audio said, yeah, 'apple removed that profile selection from 10.4.2.' so that means the tech support 'help' on their website is no longer valid, and they know it.
actually digidesign removed that, it is on the installer cd in a package called
Unsupported Controllers.

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Post by snowtires » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:49 pm

gomi wrote:
snowtires wrote: 3. i meant the profile they want you to use (mackie > hui interfance) is not a valid selection anymore in audio/midi preferences. i looked and looked and finally m-audio said, yeah, 'apple removed that profile selection from 10.4.2.' so that means the tech support 'help' on their website is no longer valid, and they know it.
actually digidesign removed that, it is on the installer cd in a package called
Unsupported Controllers.
so digidesign removed something from osx

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