Rules for scene launching

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Post by pulsoc » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:51 pm

If I understand your question:

You should use the crossfader. You will need, at the simplest, two channels for each part you are crossfading, one set to A and the other to B. The manual hits xfading very well, see if that helps you.

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Post by longjohns » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:39 am

iron chef -

sorry, i did not account for the fact that you want this to happen at an unspecified time. i was thinking of it as a pre-programmed sequence, where the fade happens at a particular bar in the song.

maybe some other method, like the crossfader or something... would be better

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actually, give this a try:

forget about legato mode. do not put the second clip in the new scene. instead, remove the clip stop button from that slot. then use your unlinked envelope to do the fade, which will carry over into the new scene.

edit - oops i see jethrosipho already mentioned removing stop buttons, but maybe you have not yet experimented with it??

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Post by Michael Hatsis » Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:19 pm

ironchef wrote: Also, for overlapping two scenes look into legato mode and follow actions in Clip properties, that should get you rolling-

Michael

I see what you are talking about. Legato basically resume playing the next clip at the same position it was in the previous clip, right? Combined with an unlinked volume fade should do the trick but can't get it to work. I was using the same clip, I even tried different clips no go either. Thoughts?
I dont think Legato will help you for fading between 2 scenes, overlapping clips yes but not a fade.
Basically tracks are monophonic- only one clip per track at a time, for a fade you need at least for tracks to be duophonic - or you can use two tracks or more than 2 scenes. Then play with the crossfaders.
Also, if you want Try staggering the launch quantise times on the clips. Say for 8 tracks start with:
launch quantize at 1/32 for the clip on track 1
launch quantize at 1/8 for the clip on track 2
launch quantize at 1/4 for the clip on track 3
...
launch quantize at 2 bars for the clip on track 8...
so when you launch a scene it will kind of give the impression of a fade.

It will take setting up so i dont know if that will work for you-
Michael

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Post by ironchef » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:25 pm

Thank you all. I think what I'm trying to do seems like a new feature more than anything else.

Using the crossfader can allow me to switch from any scenes to my ending with the pickup (I has to be in one audio file and must launch the clip not the scene it's in) although I wish I could only press on key to trigger it (instead of launching clip and perform crossfade), but I still can't do this between 2 scenes that would require a pickup.

Because change of scene can happen anytime and I want to be able to have a cymbal roll or some sort of fill to to segway to the new scene I'd need 2 scene to overlap for various number of beats. Ideally I'd even have a set of rules to how to switch between specific scenes.

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