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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:50 pm
by sweetjesus
Angstrom wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:yeah cause apparently daws are supposed to do things for you. clicking 2 dots on a line and moving one of them to make a fade is way too much work and we'll never get anything done with that kind of "show stopper"

ffs , read and understand


Cubase clip crossfade:
two clips on the same track (with effects, eq etc on track)
drag second clip start over first clip end
press X

the two clips are now crossfaded in Cubase

live crossfade
two clips on the same track (with effects, eq etc on track)
make two new audio tracks
copy second clip onto one audio track
copy all eq and effects onto third audio track
route tracks one and 2 to track 3
open volume envelope on track one, draw volume fade out
open volume envelope on track two draw volume fade in

the two clips are now crossfaded in Live


if you are blinded by corporate buttcheeks you may decide that the second list is actually better. Personally I prefer the first way.

I'm not sure exactly how that first way is "bloated"
those corporate butt checks just made it so you can select any number of tracks, hit ctrl + d then add in your volume fades.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:57 pm
by Angstrom
that's interesting.

Lots of entertaining additions for sure, and I will most likely update to 6.
although I do have a feeling a little like I'm saying "there's no steering wheel in this car" and the response is "yes but the indicator stem now has an LED on it!"
I can't see the new function impacting on the above crossfade scenario for example.

Of course it's no simple matter to alter the code get two streams of audio to play at the same time off one track. Live's basis is 'one peice of audio on one track at a time' - they would need to address that quite large issue to solve this in a neat way. That's not going to be quick, but once they solve it we can have overdubs, looping, x-fades, comping, etc.


BTW - "blinded by corporate butt cheeks" was meant to imply that his nose was a little to close for a rational view.

but your -"those corporate butt checks" implies that some sort of terrible security system is in place at Ableton towers !

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:17 pm
by sweetjesus
Angstrom wrote: but your -"those corporate butt checks" implies that some sort of terrible security system is in place at Ableton towers !
i meant.. those.. corporate butt czechs... yeah that's it.... because.... czech's.. have? butts...

err... ill go alpha :oops:

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:21 pm
by Robert Henke
you are all buggy.

R.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:22 pm
by Robert Henke
...and crossfades is for wimps. real man simply CUT sound.
fade is so last century

R.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:54 pm
by sweetjesus
Robert Henke wrote:you are all buggy.

R.
i had a high school principal with the last name Buggy. Looking back now, his family tree could never taken on computer programming as a job.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:09 pm
by supster
Robert Henke wrote:...and crossfades is for wimps. real man simply CUT sound.
fade is so last century

R.

:lol: i knew there was something wrong with the posters on this board ...... thats it!
.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:15 pm
by AdamJay
i need to get off pro tools like a junkie needs to get off heroin.

its just not healthy. i'm only chasing the dragon at this point...


gimme!!!

Image

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:25 pm
by abletoff
use the new track render function and mix in REAPER :D
(new version just released - really good to be a freebie)
it even crossfades without pressing x!

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:26 pm
by tylast
It's Sunday & I think everyone's jacked up. 8)
AdamJay ~ right nice Xfader.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:26 pm
by Mike Goodwin
AdamJay wrote:i need to get off pro tools like a junkie needs to get off heroin.

its just not healthy. i'm only chasing the dragon at this point...


gimme!!!

Image
I would love to see a screen like that in live. I use pro tools as well but not if I dont have to.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:16 pm
by Jim S.
elemental wrote:
noisetonepause wrote: i'd like to see crossfades between two clips on one track in arrange view.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:48 pm
by noisetonepause
Mike Goodwin wrote:
AdamJay wrote:i need to get off pro tools like a junkie needs to get off heroin.

its just not healthy. i'm only chasing the dragon at this point...


gimme!!!

Image
I would love to see a screen like that in live. I use pro tools as well but not if I dont have to.
Oh for the love of God! No! Just giddonwitit!

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:50 pm
by kenn michael
AdamJay wrote:i need to get off pro tools like a junkie needs to get off heroin.

its just not healthy. i'm only chasing the dragon at this point...


gimme!!!

Image

NOOOO!!!!! Don't look at ProTools' crossfade features... Look at Nuendo's

Nuendo's fading is MUUCH more advanced and flexible. ProTools' editing features are still very old school compared to Nuendo.

I do a lot of sound post as well as music production, and even though I have a ProTools system for compatibility reasons, I do all dialog & FX cutting, as well as surround mixing in Nuendo... WAY more modern toolset. ProTools seems archaic to cut in now.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:15 pm
by womoma
I would love to see a screen like that in live. I use pro tools as well but not if I dont have to.
Id also like to see more DAW features.